How God of War perfected the dodge roll | Game Mechanics Explained


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  • Danny BRITZMAN
    Danny BRITZMAN  2 weeks back

    Reeeealy? I LOVED god of war but no joke the roll was my LEAST favourite part. It just seemed tacked on, it didn't feel like dodging an attack and repositioning, it felt like an i-frame button that teleported you to the side.

    ALSO WTF? How does attack cancelling into a dodge make you feel like Kratos? Wouldn't reckless aggression be better, wouldn't it be better if each time you hit R1 you were committing to an attack and had to face the consequences of your rage? Creating a perfect reflection of theme in gameplay? I think the method Barlog went for with the dodge is better for a stylish fighting game like devil may cry or bayonetta.

    However I must concede, I love you Pat

    • Guille Perez
      Guille Perez  4 weeks back


      • ET103
        ET103  1 months back

        For Honor wants to know your location

        • justSTUMBLEDupon
          justSTUMBLEDupon  2 months back

          Bayonetta anyone?

          • ArtsyPerson
            ArtsyPerson  3 months back

            I was watching Enter The Gungeon videos and ended up here. WTF

            • Muhammad Aliyu
              Muhammad Aliyu  3 months back

              This guy is saying trash Kratos can side role in the previous games at the same time he can also jump twice and glide with wings. This guy knows nothing about gameplay experience and mechanics but I don't really blame u cuss there wasn't any giant boss fight like Kronos in the new game that's why u are talking trash cuss if there was u will have realize u are not clever expecialy when attacks that require u to jump are done and u have no jump dedicated button and then u foolishly side roll into it.

              • Dunte' Carson
                Dunte' Carson  3 months back

                Could you guys do a video about parkour or city traversal in games. Maybe charting how different genres developed techniques to achieve different experiences. Like feeling powerful or dynamic in superhero games like Prototype and (some games for) Spider-Man, or feeling skilled when completing maneuvers in games like any Tony Hawk-esque skater or especially Jet Set Radio. I think it's a specific element of games that is loved when it's done right but still has lots of potential growth that proper discussion could forge a path for. Thank you very much. This has been my TED talk.

                • Brian
                  Brian  4 months back

                  3:22 Uhhh, this isn't really unique. God Hand, Bayonetta and basically every action game developed by Platinum allow you to cancel attacks into dodges. God Hand, which also has an over-the-shoulder perspective, also gives the player different dodges that all suit different situations (backflipping, sidestepping and ducking).

                  • Der Headbanger
                    Der Headbanger  4 months back

                    Kratos could roll and dodge before 2018! The right Analog Stick was dedicated to this action!

                    • Sebastián Orsi
                      Sebastián Orsi  4 months back

                      Pat: "GOW perfected the dodge roll."

                      Dodge Roll (the company): Am I a joke to you?

                    • uonexd
                      uonexd  4 months back

                      no it didnt lmao, bloodborne, enter the gungeon would like a word.

                      • RANDOM CRAZI GIRL
                        RANDOM CRAZI GIRL  5 months back

                        PICCOLO HAS JOINED THE CHAT.....

                        if you actually watched TFS dbz abridged , you would actually understand
                        anyway....have a good day ,person reading this comment, you look beautiful today

                        • Carlos Gallon
                          Carlos Gallon  5 months back

                          In Ys 8 Lacrimosa of Dana. You get a dodge roll and block that both have invincibility for a moment and give you crit speed and attack boosts depending on which you use, encouraging you to use them and a choice about which you prefer

                          • Dev
                            Dev  6 months back

                            God Of War 4 dicksuckers need to stop playing games.

                            • Rouge-ish
                              Rouge-ish  6 months back

                              also it was more about blocking in older games, kratos' timed blocks would change the flow of combat

                              • Rouge-ish
                                Rouge-ish  6 months back

                                Kratos could dodge in his older iterations too

                                • ashmasterc
                                  ashmasterc  6 months back

                                  Can you look at death mechanics in games? That or loot and rewards and why some games it works or it doesn't.

                                  • Happy's A Gamer
                                    Happy's A Gamer  6 months back

                                    God of War never innovated that mechanic. that mechanic was in games WAY before it, which is known as "feinting" where you could instantly cancel out of an attack animation allowing you to perform another action straight away. like 'For Honor' which came out 1 year before GoW did

                                    and considering other peoples comments...... this subject was poorly researched, in such is feeding a lot misinformed information to the viewers

                                    • Lex Ackson
                                      Lex Ackson  6 months back

                                      godhand ps2

                                      • Adrian Clayton
                                        Adrian Clayton  6 months back

                                        I'd love to see something looking into the tactical feeling and gameplay of MGSV

                                        • adarsh sirsat
                                          adarsh sirsat  6 months back

                                          An idiot wrote this script and a even bigger idiot read it.

                                          • Kris Li
                                            Kris Li  6 months back

                                            Hate to see Assassin creed has gone off the track but the dodge animation is kinda good tho

                                            • Joshua Shaw
                                              Joshua Shaw  7 months back

                                              Are we all just gonna sleep on the Perfect Dodge in Spider-Man? Honestly feels amazing.

                                              • Orangish Purple
                                                Orangish Purple  7 months back

                                                Dark Souls or Demon Souls? What am I missing?

                                                • Gurdulu
                                                  Gurdulu  7 months back

                                                  relax, bud, wasn't gonna yell at ya :p

                                                  • Azam Jamal
                                                    Azam Jamal  7 months back

                                                    eventhough these kinds of videos would not get more views. It is really fun. I wish you guys will keep making it. it makes you guys unique. insanely refreshing i might add!

                                                    • Deyvid Vito Paes ne es
                                                      Deyvid Vito Paes ne es  7 months back

                                                      God hand , i rest my case.

                                                      • Pierson Ramirez
                                                        Pierson Ramirez  7 months back

                                                        Okay well for honor already had this kind of dodging and a couple other games 😂

                                                        • cami cami
                                                          cami cami  7 months back

                                                          Lol nope its far from perfect its a standard roll

                                                          • Jwala Seethal Chandra
                                                            Jwala Seethal Chandra  7 months back

                                                            Please expand on Prince Of Persia's rewind time mechanic, if you would BOYY :)

                                                            • SCMabridged
                                                              SCMabridged  7 months back

                                                              "God of War perfected the dodge roll because it's our favorite game of 2018; it didn't invent dodging or rolling but it also invented dodging and rolling! Now here's an arbitrary list of random games that also have rolling and/or dodging in them. Now, God of War perfected the dodge roll because it uses the dodge roll to give the player defensive options without slowing down the pace of the combat: no other action game ever thought of this! God of War is also the first game to ever incorporate i-frames and animation-canceling. So there you have it folks, I've conclusively proved God of War both invented and perfected dodging, rolling, i-frames, and animation-canceling, all in the year 2018: what a game!!"

                                                              What a waste of four minutes....

                                                              • TheLobsterDeity
                                                                TheLobsterDeity  7 months back

                                                                Oh yeah yeah

                                                                • TheLobsterDeity
                                                                  TheLobsterDeity  7 months back

                                                                  brothers.... I N E E D R E I N F O R C E M E N T S

                                                                  • SmokeyBeefRoarus
                                                                    SmokeyBeefRoarus  7 months back

                                                                    You've obviously never played Dark Souls

                                                                    • francescop1
                                                                      francescop1  7 months back

                                                                      BUT IS IT TOXICALY MASCULINE TO DODGE ROLL

                                                                      • Marcel Rodriguez
                                                                        Marcel Rodriguez  7 months back

                                                                        I liked the old GoW gameplay more tbh.

                                                                        • Geralt of Rivia
                                                                          Geralt of Rivia  7 months back

                                                                          Well i say the witcher 3 revolutionized the dodge roll and god of war built on that
                                                                          However the witcher 3 still has better dodging and rolls

                                                                          • Jose Leozar Velasco
                                                                            Jose Leozar Velasco  7 months back

                                                                            “You dash into an enemy and decide its a bad idea”

                                                                            • TheConsole Killer
                                                                              TheConsole Killer  7 months back

                                                                              This was a great break down of dodge mechanics. Looking back I think Ninja Gaiden and Ninja Gaiden Black were my first real solid intro to dodge rolling with I - frames (Original Xbox). Thats a huge part of why that became one of my favorite games of all time, not just hack n slash.

                                                                              God Hand was also around that time and an amazing game too. Unique to God Hand was 4 different types of dodge. You had the left analog for all movement (no individual camera control) and the right analog for 4 types of dodge. Flick it up for a dodge where you stand in place and bob and weave (this move is mostly invincible until you end it), left or right to quickly sidestep left or right, and down for a dodge roll with I- frames. Though I never used the side steps and rarely used the bob and weave , it allowed for more play styles. I recently beat the game on hard thinking I would need to use that bob and weave move but I beat it with mostly dodge rolling. So the game really allowed flexible play. As you said, this mechanic allows aggressive and evasive manuevers to be done around the same time so you arent just holding block or retreating.

                                                                              Bayonetta has an interesting take on the dodge mechanic. Slowing time when you get it just right. That was also very satisfying. The second one was one of the best games Ive played.

                                                                              The God Of War series I always though excelled in presentation but I felt the combat was lacking. I always liked the combat better than DMC series which I felt the enemies were mostly mindless fodder for freestyle ,stylish combo oriented play, but it was never near that level of NG or God Hand (not really a hack n slash but still) gameplay wise for me. I went through the second one on titan and first on hardest, and I never felt the rolling was real precise. The fixed camera wasnt great either. With the latest GOW they really nailed exciting pacing in the combat scenarios (except for the large troll fights and some enemy repetition) and the combat itself was so much more fluid and enjoyable as a result. Much more satisfying. The behind the back camera is alot more brutal and immersive too. I didnt have an issue with crowd control as there was arrows that indicated attack direction and plenty of moves to manage crowds. Hardest mode could be real tough at times but nothing like titan in GOW 2. Some of this was for the wrong reasons though. GOW 2 had worse control and tons of insane endurance sequences (15 minute theseus fight, etc, one hit death) When I got fucked up I felt like it was due to my reaction and not some sloppy movement from worse gameplay. I didnt miss not being able to jump in this game. The dodge roll was like a horizontal jump and all you really need.

                                                                              Using this game as a new foundation, the series has the potential to be incredible and at the top of the hack n slash genre and just a top game in general. This entry is already one of my favorite games.

                                                                              • jannic Westrich
                                                                                jannic Westrich  7 months back

                                                                                nioh also had a really cool losging system

                                                                                • Joe Bailey
                                                                                  Joe Bailey  7 months back

                                                                                  Nah fam

                                                                                  • Glbrt III
                                                                                    Glbrt III  7 months back

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                                                                                    • Hara-kiri
                                                                                      Hara-kiri  7 months back

                                                                                      I'm so fat I can easily dodge roll but

                                                                                      • GHDude
                                                                                        GHDude  7 months back

                                                                                        ... B-But he can single jump...?

                                                                                        Well. Polygon.

                                                                                        • bleach4711
                                                                                          bleach4711  7 months back

                                                                                          This video is literally just pandering to GOW fanboys. All the comments are literally disputing everything mentioned in this video. Seems like Polygon is becoming the new IGN.

                                                                                          • Chris Scott
                                                                                            Chris Scott  7 months back

                                                                                            Had no idea gow had i frames...
                                                                                            I've LITERALLY never not taken damage during a dodge roll (in fact, this pissed me off endlessly, I would curse the game for not giving me those i frames like soulsbourne (of which I'm pretty decent at!)).
                                                                                            I even platinumed gow, and somehow never experienced invulnerability while dodge rolling.

                                                                                            Maybe I'm just bad at it in gow for some reason lol

                                                                                            • Lil Ounce
                                                                                              Lil Ounce  7 months back

                                                                                              God of war 3 is better than 2018 God of war change my mind

                                                                                              • Faint Sounds
                                                                                                Faint Sounds  7 months back

                                                                                                Double tapping to dodge is bullshit. And makes it unresponsive at times it really shows during the valkyrie jump attacks.