Maybe VR isn't dead after all... - Valve Index Review

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  • Published: 12 August 2019
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Comments • 6 225

  • Phillipe
    Phillipe  1 weeks back

    Oculus Rift S, anyone? Linus forgot to mention it entirely!!!!!!! No need for extra cameras at all, for $ 400, it’s a good VR headset...

    • JaayOnPC
      JaayOnPC  4 hours back

      Thats the one i want to buy just for no mans sky :)

    • everoblivion2005
      everoblivion2005  8 hours back

      The Rift S doesn't have room sensing motion, right? Like I cannot walk 10 feet forward and have that translate into the game right? Or am I wrong here, I've been holding out, saving for an Index specifically for this purpose. I've tried the PSVR and the Vive, and the Vive's ability for me to walk across a space, bend over an pick something up, or side step behind cover completely blew the stationary experience out of the water. But maybe I'm mis-understanding the capabilities of inside-out tracking.

    • S. Anonyme
      S. Anonyme  10 hours back

      @Elaf Khan That is not a PC game headset, you can play only VR games in the Oculus shop (Which can be largely enough I don't discuss that).

    • Norman Jutras
      Norman Jutras  10 hours back

      Love the rift, and is no way dead. Linus probably gets motion sickness

    • Jack Davis-Sills
      Jack Davis-Sills  15 hours back

      @EleMenTfiNi Sounds like Apple/Samsung with headphone jacks etc. lol

  • abanoub samy
    abanoub samy  17 minutes back

    I have a small question which vr positioning system is better : the one with cameras in the vr itself or the one that needs external sensors like the on in the vid.. 🤔

    • Corazon Sierra
      Corazon Sierra  27 minutes back

      the segways crack me up! i have ad blocker to block the obnoxious ads that bloat every channel on youtube... but not once have i regretted your ad segways xD

      • Saturn2888
        Saturn2888  39 minutes back

        The reason moving to 120Hz wouldn't show a difference is if your system isn't running at that speed. I've seen it on other reviews too. If your machine isn't fast enough (980 Ti), then that might be the issue. Lowering the render resolution should fix that.

        Because of the way VR renders to the headset, 1:1 resolution to headset pixel isn't 1:1. SteamVR has a way to modify it so you render say 1.5x or 2x the resolution of the headset to account for this discrepancy. If you're rendering at too high a resolution (the Index is higher resolution than the Vive), then your 980 Ti might not be able to keep up.

        That's my assumption on that paddle game. You'd know for sure if you measured frame times.

        • Psythix
          Psythix  1 hours back

          omg my cat is called shadow :o

          • 2StepMarv
            2StepMarv  1 hours back

            Wait, this comes with a cat? Damn, im getting one right now.

            • Bio Kek
              Bio Kek  2 hours back

              So we're just gonna ignore the pussy in the package?

              • Baby Spine
                Baby Spine  2 hours back

                the lenovo explorer has LCD lens as well and they are terrible

                • rslife
                  rslife  3 hours back

                  what? you not only get a VR headset but you also get a cat!

                  • Evercreeper
                    Evercreeper  5 hours back

                    I am fellow Canadian, I feel sad too.

                    • Krabben Army
                      Krabben Army  5 hours back

                      Are the Valve index Controller compatible with the Vive headset? Never found a reliable awnser

                      • Cole Keeton
                        Cole Keeton  2 hours back

                        Krabben Army yes. And with a little work u can use them on the oculus too

                    • DJ SICK__BOY
                      DJ SICK__BOY  5 hours back

                      stop be rich kind reviewer m8 and show something logical with normal price

                      • weeeds334
                        weeeds334  5 hours back

                        12:00 lol rofl lmao Xd

                        • Richard Green
                          Richard Green  5 hours back

                          How much no thanx

                          • Micah Tartles
                            Micah Tartles  5 hours back

                            Are you going to be selling your Vive. I live nearby and would be interested in buying

                            • Ryan Lawrence
                              Ryan Lawrence  5 hours back

                              it comes with a cat???

                              • het gouden katje
                                het gouden katje  5 hours back

                                Please linus review also the ocleus rift.

                                • Miguel Pereira
                                  Miguel Pereira  6 hours back

                                  I'd rather spend 1000$ on this than on a phone

                                  • IraQ Nid
                                    IraQ Nid  6 hours back

                                    So naturally you guys need to have cat VR headsets enabling your kitties to enjoy the VR interface. But be sure to make the cables chew proof.

                                    • Papa Labman
                                      Papa Labman  6 hours back

                                      I'm pretty sure Linus has given up on smooth segues

                                      • fede
                                        fede  6 hours back

                                        Wtf cat in the box??

                                        • Yar0nix
                                          Yar0nix  6 hours back

                                          "...I still do wish that it was more of a strap-on experience."

                                          • Lukas Sprehn
                                            Lukas Sprehn  6 hours back

                                            Maybe? What? It was never dead or close to being dead. What are you talking about?

                                            • J-THR3
                                              J-THR3  6 hours back

                                              If you’re an average consumer, get the Oculus Quest. You can even stream SteamVR to it with almost unnoticeable latency if you have a 5ghz wifi network.

                                              • Lanes
                                                Lanes  7 hours back

                                                "I do wish it was more of a strap on experience" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

                                                • Ashley Keyser
                                                  Ashley Keyser  7 hours back

                                                  my cats name is shadow!

                                                  • oktc68
                                                    oktc68  7 hours back

                                                    VR no no no, all that money to look like a complete arse Linus.

                                                    • Avernuum Solantis
                                                      Avernuum Solantis  7 hours back

                                                      Whoever keeps designing those cheap looking speakers for these headsets should be publicly executed... Not to mention the mic!

                                                      • Charles Li
                                                        Charles Li  7 hours back

                                                        buying the index for the free cat in the box!

                                                        • Globespy
                                                          Globespy  7 hours back

                                                          Way to go Linus......but it's still a huge letdown given that it's really marginally better visually than the Rift S, and is much harder to drive even with high end PC. With the problems with the index controllers reported all over the internet it's really not worth the money.
                                                          I had one for a week and returned in favor of keeping the Rift S as it is simply far more compelling since both these HMD's are nothing more than stop-gaps between old and actual next gen VR.

                                                          • The Great Bambino
                                                            The Great Bambino  7 hours back

                                                            You need to play Boneworks ny Stress Level Zero when it comes out. It's the only VR gaming experience being presented right now that adequately supports Index functionality.

                                                            • Furious Deer
                                                              Furious Deer  7 hours back

                                                              shouldve tried blade and sorcery that has full finger tracking

                                                              • Hugo Wijk
                                                                Hugo Wijk  7 hours back

                                                                Is it worth just getting the controllers for the htc vive?
                                                                They just became available for me and now I have to decide if I want to buy them.

                                                                • Retro Plus
                                                                  Retro Plus  7 hours back

                                                                  3:32 Wow, it's awfully kind of Valve to include a free cat with every headset!

                                                                  • The Great Bambino
                                                                    The Great Bambino  7 hours back

                                                                    Valve Index definitely comes with a free cat. While supplies last.

                                                                    • Tom Cullen
                                                                      Tom Cullen  8 hours back

                                                                      BRO, of course your cat's called shadow

                                                                      • Oxford Electronics
                                                                        Oxford Electronics  8 hours back

                                                                        Strap on experience….deep in the hole there....using middle finger...only doing what daddy told you to...

                                                                        • Nephanor
                                                                          Nephanor  8 hours back

                                                                          Hey dude, any chance of getting this in Canada? Because Amazon.ca doesn't have it

                                                                          • DogTheBoss
                                                                            DogTheBoss  8 hours back

                                                                            And here I am with a shitty WMR headset

                                                                            • Tomer abitbul eizen
                                                                              Tomer abitbul eizen  8 hours back

                                                                              It comes with a cute kitty worth it even if it doesnt work

                                                                              • Psychonaut Gamer
                                                                                Psychonaut Gamer  8 hours back

                                                                                "I still do wish that this was more of a strap-on experience" That's what she said. Is that still a thing?

                                                                                • Psychonaut Gamer
                                                                                  Psychonaut Gamer  8 hours back

                                                                                  Sinse weed is legal in Canada, then why the fuck wouldn't you do one of these videos stoned? Linus is officially un-cool.

                                                                                  • Chaos Corner
                                                                                    Chaos Corner  8 hours back

                                                                                    Soft touch always ends up as a sticky mess after a few years.

                                                                                    • Seraph X2
                                                                                      Seraph X2  9 hours back

                                                                                      oh hah. he's got the replica sword from the last samurai i got that same one..stand and everything.

                                                                                      • 〉〉GameHacKeR〈〈
                                                                                        〉〉GameHacKeR〈〈  9 hours back

                                                                                        Even if for some reason your paying $1500 too $2000 doesn't make the price of the valve index justified or worth while. All the headsets at the moment are overpriced making them not worth while. :(

                                                                                        • 〉〉GameHacKeR〈〈
                                                                                          〉〉GameHacKeR〈〈  9 hours back

                                                                                          Is it easy to disable the headphones completely so you can just use your surround sound speakers

                                                                                          • rufftuffman rufftuffman
                                                                                            rufftuffman rufftuffman  10 hours back

                                                                                            sensors midel finger shows brutal murdering rigth on youtube

                                                                                            • OctoMan PC's
                                                                                              OctoMan PC's  10 hours back

                                                                                              for $1200 you get the HMD, Controllers, Sensors and a CAT!