The Truth About 90s Defense In The NBA and Why It is Easier To Score In Today's League


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  • Jordan
    Jordan  4 days back

    One thing most people don't understand is handchecking does not mean you can foul. Holding and reaching was still the same call as it is today.
    The good defenders back then played defense with their feet just like they do today.

    • donpaul7
      donpaul7  7 days back

      This was one of the most informed videos I've ever seen. As parts of the video are coming up I'm thinkign a rule, and bam! you hit it. And then you provide even further inside articles and evidence FROM NBA PEOPLE. Then the Nash MVP stuff, I knew about the Grant Hill interviews on Nash as MVP, Shaq has said it many times (he also played with Nash)... they don't mince words and MOST players during that era, when picking the best PG of that era (2000s) do NOT pick Nash. Not a one. And they all were right there, part of it. They remember not being able to touch the guy and who he was. Remarkable stuff.

      • ivan calkins
        ivan calkins  1 weeks back

        Do a video on perimeter players height and weight back in Jordan's era then.

        • Kurt Olson
          Kurt Olson  2 weeks back

          The song in the beginning. What is it?

          • Sammy Sam
            Sammy Sam  2 weeks back

            Legend of Winning, Thank you. The younger fans and current players don't have a clue how easy it is to score in the league today. And let's be honest, the players are not better in the sense of a all around player, but shooting is the name of the game today. The more 3s you take and the more you make, you're great. And that's cool because that's the game in today's era. But facts are facts and today's players and fans don't comprehend how the league has literally changed the rules and enforced others to first speed up the game and scores, and to protect the players from injury given how the game was played from the mid to late 70s up till the 2002, 2003, maybe 2004 season.
            Back in the 70s 80, and 90s at least half of the normal fouls then would be called a flagrant 2 today.
            Another good example for this era being a potty chair era and I hate to use him as my example but he's perfect for this example.
            Russell Westbrook. In 1961 Oscar Robertson became the first player and was the only guard to average a triple double in a regular season. It wasn't until the 2016-17 season that Russell Westbrook became the first player in 56 years to average a triple double. Let's examine this more.
            If the era of the 70' 80's and 90's is less than that of the 00's and 10's, why did it take 56 years for a player who never played in a hand checking era to average a triple double in a season, but did it 3 years straight? If today's game is so much more difficult and challenging, by averaging a triple double 3 years straight, wouldn't that make Russell Westbrook a better player than Bird, Magic, Iverson, Shaq, Kobe, and Jordan considering not one of them ever averaged a triple double once in what some people call a weak era?
            Kids these days don't research anything, they just google a stat for a player they like and since participation trophies are the norm, these kids accept showing up or being average means greatness. There's a reason why the shoes are called Air Jordan's, there's a reason the bulls won two 3 peats, there's a reason it was called the Dream Team, and there's a reason the rules were changed after the 2001-2003 seasons
            Google that shit bitches.
            Thanks again LEDEND OF WINNING truth video

            • R3sG THEPVS
              R3sG THEPVS  2 weeks back

              If you watch the way the mavs stopt LeBron in the 2011 finals it wut be very obvious that lebron wut have benefited alot from illegal defens.

            • Maciek Majewski
              Maciek Majewski  2 weeks back

              Another thing that changed NBA forever is Malice at the Palace. League was made to be soft, fast paced and much more skill-wise than strength.

              • Jarekx2007
                Jarekx2007  3 weeks back

                This is the problem with Youtube and media in general. Any idiot can put up a video and talk for 20 minutes about half-truths and straight up fake news, get millions of views, and influence the masses because nobody can call them out on their bullshit.

                That video has over 2m views. This one doesn't even have 300,000. 2m people out there have never and probably will never see the facts.

                • Mr. Miles
                  Mr. Miles  3 weeks back

                  LOW is GOAT of NBA YouTube.

                  • Mr. Miles
                    Mr. Miles  3 weeks back

                    LOW is GOAT of NBA YouTube.

                    • Jeffrey Xu
                      Jeffrey Xu  3 weeks back

                      Triggered people in the comment section

                      • Tay Yasharal
                        Tay Yasharal  3 weeks back

                        A lot of cats in the 90s had no skill as well and fouling or being dirty was their skill. Tree Rollins, John Salley, Alton Lister, Luc Longley, etc.

                        • Tay Yasharal
                          Tay Yasharal  3 weeks back

                          Curry is the reason this era scores a lot. 2000s was the best era in my opinion, especially defensively.

                          • J Syv
                            J Syv  4 weeks back

                            Wouldn’t pace mean that the game is flowing and not stopping? Hence less fouls? Less fouls would probably mean less physical

                            • Gsh x Money 3
                              Gsh x Money 3  4 weeks back

                              If didn't get the chance to watch 90s basketball live you have no right to even argue bout the difference between the 90s era especially if you wasn't born then you really have no argument on this topic plan and simple

                              • Gabriel Suarez
                                Gabriel Suarez  4 weeks back

                                and this great video finishes with my favorite youtuber, chronicles of judah, boy you are on fire, great vid

                                • Theophilus Jones
                                  Theophilus Jones  1 months back

                                  This man breaks down stuff like a smart anime character

                                  • Paul Patterson
                                    Paul Patterson  1 months back

                                    Good gob researching it thoroughly. Because of the removal of handcheking and addition of 3 seconds in the paint rules, perimeter players could get to the rim at wil,and now we have what we havex teams attempt a shitload amount of 3s even centers like brook lopez jacking up 3s, power forwards like drew gooden and all horford, you have lots of dribble penetrations resulting in layups and dunks at the rim.

                                    The nba became really boring and painful to watch, teams don't even emphasize mid range game or post players are scared to post up because zone defense.

                                    • The People's Mix
                                      The People's Mix  1 months back

                                      And the way people attacked hand checking was to hold the players arm and use them as a pole to enhance your first step 😂 fuxk outta here Jordan is overrated the rules were literally made to help him. Kobe and Bron are far better and LeBron is the GOAT and Hakeem is the most underrated player of all time as well.

                                      • Aaron Davis
                                        Aaron Davis  1 months back

                                        The more physical you are, the more trash you are. There ain't no if, ands, or buts. It clearly says at 13:16, "...and success was increasingly being dictated by how many bludgeoning 7'1", 325 pound mastodons you had on your team. Ahead of the 2001-2002 season, the league pushed back by instituting new rules to open up the floor and promote SKILL over STRENGTH...". Physicality replaces skill. I'd rather defend purely off instincts, IQ, physical gifts, and athleticism, not shove, grab, tackle, and whack the player.

                                        • Jetro Karjalainen
                                          Jetro Karjalainen  1 months back

                                          Great video and I agree with you but I would have wanted you to react to the part where he showed examples of fouls because they weren't bad at all. So would have wanted your take on that

                                          • Stephen Swanson
                                            Stephen Swanson  1 months back

                                            Idk where you you get your info.... read

                                            • Tevin Reid
                                              Tevin Reid  1 months back

                                              Your hand checking clarification was good. You cleared up his mistakes there. Your argument of pace does not address Jimmy's point. You instead just attacked him for not seemingly understanding the rule, and then you just brought interesting facts that doesn't address the argument and took liberties misquoting the committee people's words.

                                              • Bryant Walker
                                                Bryant Walker  1 months back

                                                Great vid

                                                • Base Hit
                                                  Base Hit  1 months back

                                                  Solid vid, LOW, though I wish you analyzed the zone defense rule changes a bit more. But there are people in the comments using your video in an attempt to “validate” their subjective ranking of all-time players. We cannot judge today’s NBA through the lens of the NBA from TWENTY to THIRTY YEARS AGO.

                                                  And let’s face it — 75% of the 80s & 90s purists simply hate LeBron James and will thus stop at nothing in an attempt to discredit his all-time great legacy.

                                                  • JRC Games
                                                    JRC Games  1 months back

                                                    You shit on Los man good shit

                                                    • Mazzi _
                                                      Mazzi _  1 months back

                                                      Great debate with los bro you really know you nba

                                                      • Jesus Loves you
                                                        Jesus Loves you  1 months back

                                                        SG:Harden,Butler,Dwayne Wade
                                                        C:Boogie,Embiid,Dwayne Wade

                                                        Not bad.

                                                        • G-man
                                                          G-man  1 months back

                                                          amateur take.Anyone who knows anything about b ball knows its a hundred times easier to score in a man to man with illegal defense in place versus zone and hybrid zone d with the 3 second

                                                          • Adam M
                                                            Adam M  2 months back

                                                            His video is way better and it's why it's got way more views also his video is way more accurate

                                                            • punizzzle
                                                              punizzzle  2 months back

                                                              The 2011 Mavericks also played a 2-3 zone. BRO YOURE SO STUPID

                                                              • punizzzle
                                                                punizzzle  2 months back

                                                                Another thing, this playoff series with the bucks and raptors the raptors played a 3-2 zone which took Giannis out of the game. So you’re fucking wrong and should delete this video. Imagine if Giannis didn’t have to play the 3-2 zone and it was straight up man defense? We’d have a different champion right now. So stop making YouTube videos you idiot

                                                                • punizzzle
                                                                  punizzzle  2 months back

                                                                  I’m fucking done with casual fans like you. It’s crazy to think that 30 years ago the competition was better. There are more incentives to play basketball and more people interested in playing (4 out of the 5 rewards are foreign players)

                                                                  • punizzzle
                                                                    punizzzle  2 months back


                                                                    • punizzzle
                                                                      punizzzle  2 months back

                                                                      BRO ARE YOU STUPID!!!!!!

                                                                      • punizzzle
                                                                        punizzzle  2 months back

                                                                        This video sucks

                                                                        • planyrescape
                                                                          planyrescape  2 months back

                                                                          You're right that the early 00s were the most defensive period in NBA history. Just watch Spurs v Pistons in the 2005. You're also right about the lack of spacing in the 90s. But, I'd say that this season, we've seen a lot more zone played. And we've seen the Raps even run some box and 1 defense. I grew up watching 90s defense. And I'd say that while these days things are more offensively minded, defenses aren't incredibly less physical. Sure, you dont have enforcers like Laimbeer. But defenses are more flexible now. You have a lot of drop defense that isnt man to man. About half the league runs drop defense (usually just due to personnel, it's easier to run with the talent pool than switching defense), you can switch or you can run zone. The best teams mix up their defensive looks between possessions. That's something you'd rarely see in the 90s. I'd say the other thing that you didnt discuss that changed the league was the analytics revolution, on both ends of the ball. Not just for spacing the floor, but defenses conceding low efficiency shots.
                                                                          But as always, this is a great video. Your points stand. I'd say that after this video was made, like a few months after, zone picked up the most steam its had in the past few years with the Nets and Raps which is just kinda weird timing wise. But a lot of these points are really well articulated. I had no idea about that David Griffin shit. Good stuff. Keep it up LoW. One of the best in the game.

                                                                          • MIKELL CURTIS
                                                                            MIKELL CURTIS  2 months back

                                                                            LOL talk to Agent Zero lol

                                                                            • nerdsinthetrap
                                                                              nerdsinthetrap  2 months back

                                                                              Regardless of this breakdown, the fact of the matter is that the impact of hand-checking is largely overstated. We act like the 80s and 90s basketball was like hockey or something when it was not. I grew up on the 80s and 90s NBA and still watch NBA classics all you have to do is USE YOUR EYES and you can see players are much better than they use to be. And relying on the hand checking argument to discredit this era of basketball neglects the MANY other variables and ways the game has changed that has resulted in much improved offensive output. The game is much faster, the floor is more open due to increased shooting range across all positions, players are more skilled because they start training much earlier in life (4-5 years old) with much better training including the impact of data and technology on training, not to mention the game is global now so there is a much larger talent pool. Let's just be real the game has evolved for the better and it's not just because of no more hand-checking. That is a ridiculous argument and a way for old generations to maintain their egos. Athletes, in general, have evolved which is why sprinters which can be measured more objectively than anything easily demonstrates an athlete in the 70s and 80s is not on par with current generations. If you think that is isolated to sprinting you are in denial. Don't take my word for it. Once again USE YOUR EYES. Pull up some 80s games right now on Youtube and you will see that many of the guys that played back then probably couldn't get a contract overseas now! That just reality live with it.

                                                                              • thelegendsqb1
                                                                                thelegendsqb1  1 months back

                                                                                Yeah I’ve seen a good handful of 80s/90s games (mostly playoffs) and I’m very convinced that if you dropped LeBron, Giannis, KD, Harden in that era they would have an absolute FIELD DAY.

                                                                              • nerdsinthetrap
                                                                                nerdsinthetrap  2 months back

                                                                                Also do your research FACT is that number of foul calls per game and free throw attempts has declined consistently over the years since the 1970s. The 80s teams were shooting 30 FTA per game and now its more around 23 FTA per game so what does that say.

                                                                            • G-man
                                                                              G-man  2 months back

                                                                              boy!!! you an amateur. ZONE DEFENSE!!!!! Every player who played in no zone era and zone ALL including Mj said its much harder to score in zone. You just gotta use your common sense but its obvious you aint no baller

                                                                              • Ahmed Salar
                                                                                Ahmed Salar  2 months back

                                                                                Wait hold up. Scoring was to increase due to that graph of yours but you putting around numbers of efficiency that support your own narrative. The next point really didn't hit home with me. I also felt like you didn't address the eyetest. I watched like 13 games in the pre hand check and felt like the foul calls were quite the same. Now these weren't highlights, these were full games. Some of those calls were as stupid as today. I liked where the video was going but in cases like these you have to keep the biases aside.

                                                                                • philchips
                                                                                  philchips  2 months back

                                                                                  You and the other kid haven't been alive to experience it all. No matter how many youtube vids you research or stats you crunch, you won't fully understand as well as the many many other factors involved. It was way more physical opposed to not being able to touch your opponent. Zone is legal. I could go on and on. Players today are much more softer, that's not to say they wouldn't learn if thrown into that situation.

                                                                                  • Lance Yocom
                                                                                    Lance Yocom  2 months back

                                                                                    7:25 just wondering how you can graph pace.

                                                                                    • YIKES
                                                                                      YIKES  2 months back

                                                                                      Also even if he didn’t include pace the claim is still valid plus you could also say the pace slowed down due to to increase in better defense

                                                                                    • YIKES
                                                                                      YIKES  2 months back

                                                                                      Lance Yocom yeah same here I was looking at the chart and that doesn’t explain shit he just put a random chart

                                                                                  • JG32
                                                                                    JG32  2 months back

                                                                                    Why have the best games always been slugfests?
                                                                                    2010 nba finals Game 7
                                                                                    Lakers def Celtics 83-79
                                                                                    2016 nba finals game 7
                                                                                    Cavaliers def Warriors 93-89
                                                                                    2019 ECSF game 7
                                                                                    Raptors def 76ers 93-91
                                                                                    Rarely do the best games reach 100 points

                                                                                    • thelegendsqb1
                                                                                      thelegendsqb1  2 months back

                                                                                      Funny how you’re bringing up games of this decade where the oldheads say “Defense is soft blah blah blah”. Usually Game 7s I’ve noticed tend to be very low scoring because both teams are literally burnt out and exhausted and it feels more like an offensive struggle than a defensive struggle.

                                                                                  • MICOLE WHYTE #Oneplus6T#LG,G6

                                                                                    Legend of Winning just drop a 💣💥 on Jimmy high roller head. RIP Jimmy High roller on this topic 💀⚰️

                                                                                    • MANiFESTGOD'S POWER
                                                                                      MANiFESTGOD'S POWER  2 months back

                                                                                      Whats hilarious is that the Suns had a huge advantage with jerry colangelo.....AND STILL NEVER WON A CHAMPIONSHIP. LMFAO.

                                                                                      • RAVENzSZN
                                                                                        RAVENzSZN  2 months back

                                                                                        yea, im still not impressed from watching hours of 90s basketball, i think that people from the 90s think they are special and athletes dont get better over decades.

                                                                                        • Michael Strickland
                                                                                          Michael Strickland  2 months back

                                                                                          The argument that Isolation/help defense is no different today because players are better at outside shooting does NOT make much sense. Jordan didn't even need shooters to space the floor on his post-ups. Nowadays, iso players NEED shooters to get this space. 90s defensive specialists like Dennis Rodman and Ron Harper would've killed Jordan's spacing making it way harder to score

                                                                                          • Michael Strickland
                                                                                            Michael Strickland  2 months back

                                                                                            Overall, you need a more well-rounded team than most teams in the 90s had. Great players could've adjusted, but without teammates to space the floor, it would've been harder for them to score