Who Was The Better Joker? Ledger Or Phoenix?

  • Published: 05 October 2019
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    Let the battle begin.

    With the arrival of director Todd Phillips' long-awaited Joker movie, a new challenger has entered the arena in hopes of becoming the new Best Joker Actor Ever. His name? Joaquin Phoenix. His game? Well, doing his job and delivering the chilling kind of performance he knows is required of him, but possibly also dethroning the late Heath Ledger in the process.

    Since the announcement of Joker, fans have pit Phoenix and Ledger against one another, placing bets on whether or not the newcomer could shock and scare audiences as the failed-comedian-turned-crazed-killer Arthur Fleck as much as Ledger did through his turn in Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight. The debate over Phoenix and Ledger as the Joker began months ago, but with the world finally able to see Phoenix strut his stuff in clown makeup and a tattered suit, the fight is no longer theoretical.

    So, now that Joker has landed in theaters, who played the character better: Joaquin Phoenix or Heath Ledger?

    Plenty of people were totally floored by the work Phoenix did in Joker, so much so that they now consider him better in the role than the late Ledger. Some even think Phoenix is the best Joker actor point blank.

    "Are you having any negative thoughts?"

    "All I have are negative thoughts."

    One Twitter user wrote:

    "With all due respect to previous Jokers and to the great Heath Ledger, Joaquin Phoenix is the best Joker. He has everything it needs. We finally have a proper actor playing the character in a very unfamiliar new shape. If Ledger's a straight flush, Phoenix's a full deck."

    Another fan tweeted:

    "I thought it would take a long time before someone delivers Joker better than Heath Ledger. As it turned out it only took 11 years and a certain Joaquin Phoenix."

    This fan continued to gush over Phoenix's performance in another tweet, writing,

    "Joaquin Phoenix should get an Oscar, a golden globe, an Olympic gold medal, a Nobel prize, a ballon d'or, Knighthood, a champions league winner medal and a presidential medal of freedom for his performance as the joker." Keep watching the video to see who was the better Joker? Ledger or Phoenix?

    #Joker #JoaquinPhoenixJoker #HeathLedgerJoker
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Comments • 4 245

  • Looper
    Looper   1 weeks back

    Which actor crushed the role of the Joker the best?

    • Bishal Adhikary
      Bishal Adhikary  1 days back

      Heath for sure. Joaquin's acting was horribly bad and the repeated hysterical laughters got so annoying.

    • clash of clan
      clash of clan  1 days back

      @Frank Z. Ofcourse i saw it, remember one thing Phoenix got solo movie to expose his joker acting skill but legendary ledger just show his skill only few minuit what he got in dark knight

    • Frank Z.
      Frank Z.  1 days back

      @clash of clan you havn't seen the new movie, right?

    • Michael Perez
      Michael Perez  2 days back


    • Eugen Chernomordik
      Eugen Chernomordik  2 days back

      The latest joker played by phoenix, isn't about joker or batman or even Gotham at all. so technically phoenix is no joker, he is just a lonely psycho in a cruel capitalistic world. an incel, a man with no purpose. His name is legion

  • online ninja
    online ninja  3 hours back


    • monty wilson
      monty wilson  4 hours back

      We can’t compare these 2 their both absolutely amazing as Joaquin’s joker shows his life growing up and the sad truth of society and mental illness as heaths joker is great both flawless!

      • groid
        groid  10 hours back

        Phoenix by far, ledger's joker was far too edgy and made me cringe, while phoenix was more crazy

        • Nightfrost joins the FCC
          Nightfrost joins the FCC  14 hours back

          Ledger is an amazing actor. He’s a legendary joker, but I accept that Phoenix’s joker is infact outstanding. And yeah you can argue he was emotional, but the movie is to show the audience how he became joker. Maybe later we’ll see the same joker just less emotional.

          • StrangerOf The206
            StrangerOf The206  15 hours back

            Leave it to Looper to make a video comparing the two...

            • Bettina Ouaknine
              Bettina Ouaknine  16 hours back

              I thought Jared Leto’s Joker was a tad too campy whereas Joaquin Phoenix always challenges himself in taking difficult roles; he is a serious and gifted actor and his portrayal of Joker was seriously gifted!

              • King Trawal
                King Trawal  16 hours back

                Let me put it this way... Joaquin Phoenix Version = Jordan, Ledger's version = Lebron. I'll go with the Undefeated guy with 6 rings, and 6 Finals MVPs....but Lebron is okay. not too bad. But a bridesmaid nonetheless.

                • Charlie Johnston
                  Charlie Johnston  18 hours back

                  Ledger was great and really got into the character, But Phoenix is downright crazy so they both did good in there roles.

                  • LD xxx
                    LD xxx  19 hours back

                    Phoenix for sure

                    • dean ✓
                      dean ✓  23 hours back

                      They both reflect their time

                      Heath Ledger’s: terrorism
                      Joaquin Phoenix’s: mental illness
                      Joaquin Phoenix: The perfect representation of Joker before he became the Joker.
                      Heath Ledger: The perfect representation of Joker as the Joker.

                      • Gang Weeder
                        Gang Weeder  23 hours back

                        I don't know I can't pick one or the other I think they're both the best Jokers ever.

                        Just Heath Ledger's Joker is a little more I guess masculine for lack of better description all Phoenix Joker is more I guess Disturbed antisocial or autist for lack of a better description.

                        Both were disturbing both were mental and both were clever for what they had going. And honestly both are very realistic.

                        • TheBikeOnTheMoon
                          TheBikeOnTheMoon  1 days back

                          the 2 versions of joker have their own different leagues, very hard to compare

                          • Bishal Adhikary
                            Bishal Adhikary  1 days back

                            I went to watch it thinking it would somewhat as good as Taxi Driver. But it was shockingly bad and acting was terrible. There are no other interesting characters other than Joker. Terrible movie to be honest.

                            • Yasser Krimly
                              Yasser Krimly  1 days back

                              I hope there will be another Joaquin joker no arthur just joker and action..

                              • TEACH 4 Malayalam
                                TEACH 4 Malayalam  1 days back

                                Dark knight best joker like
                                No dark knight joker joker commands

                                • ruah rayne
                                  ruah rayne  1 days back

                                  Phoenix is straight up disrespectful for trying to up ledger, which he can never do. Heath never came out of the role, he died in it.

                                  • Finn Marr-Heenan
                                    Finn Marr-Heenan  1 days back

                                    Obviously mark Hamil is the best joker,
                                    Watch batman beyond return of the joker or batman mask of the phantasm if you disagree.

                                    • Nigga In The Comment Section

                                      Nah Heath Ledger was more of the Joker, and Phoenix was more of a crazy person who finally snaps

                                      • Colby Halterman
                                        Colby Halterman  2 days back

                                        I like Phoenix because he’s Oscar worthy and his backstory is amazing heath ledger was just a crazy terrorist.

                                        • Kayson Adkins
                                          Kayson Adkins  2 days back

                                          This video sucks.

                                          • Red Mann
                                            Red Mann  2 days back

                                            Heath Ledger hands down

                                            • SlayerPayback
                                              SlayerPayback  2 days back

                                              Here's the thing....

                                              They both win if I'm being honest, they're both equal in how great they are, but in different ways

                                              • pratik kr. bose
                                                pratik kr. bose  2 days back



                                                ALL THE WAY !!!!

                                                P E R I O D

                                                • Eric Villalobos
                                                  Eric Villalobos  2 days back

                                                  Phoenix made you feel like putting on a clown mask.

                                                  • Terry Martin 9
                                                    Terry Martin 9  2 days back

                                                    Ledgers joker was the miles better

                                                    • Arensi
                                                      Arensi  2 days back

                                                      Come on guys... Phoenix was not even close to Heath..

                                                      • PraiseDa Memes
                                                        PraiseDa Memes  2 days back

                                                        Phoenix' Joker: A mentally challenged man living in a harsh society.

                                                        Ledger's Joker: An actual threat to Gotham and Batman

                                                        • LD xxx
                                                          LD xxx  19 hours back

                                                          True but we are only seeing the beginning of Phoenix's threat to Gotham and batman

                                                        • Nigga In The Comment Section
                                                          Nigga In The Comment Section  2 days back

                                                          PraiseDa Memes THANK YOU FOR ACTUALLY PUTTING IT IN WORDS

                                                      • cappinhard__ ___
                                                        cappinhard__ ___  2 days back

                                                        Ledger maybe

                                                        • Saluran ABD
                                                          Saluran ABD  2 days back

                                                          Ledger the best because as Batman Villain, He was very manipulative and keep Batman as film from every age. Phoenix showed sadism Joker, it make Joker as Batman vilain not film for Child. Joker Ledger as action film. Joker Phoenix as Drama Thriller.

                                                          • Aquarius
                                                            Aquarius  2 days back

                                                            There not even the same Joker tho so how could you compare? Ledger's Joker is military vet, mastermind while Pheonix is a retaliating victim of mental illness and abuse.

                                                            • Gopal Krishnan
                                                              Gopal Krishnan  2 days back

                                                              The point is ledger delivered that performance when he was in his mid 20s.

                                                              • gokul balagopal
                                                                gokul balagopal  2 days back

                                                                Both are equally good in their respective films

                                                                • Bit - Scout
                                                                  Bit - Scout  2 days back

                                                                  There’s so many different variations of the joker character, it’s a variety pack of insanity so it’s up to the audience’s opinion whom we like the best. Personally, I find enjoyment in all the different varieties. There’s a baseline to joker, but there’s so much room for different takes on this character. Not one joker is the same even though it’s based off the same story. That in itself is very impressive. Best villain of all time, will live on forever through several peoples interpretations.

                                                                  • Prof . Chandradeep
                                                                    Prof . Chandradeep  2 days back

                                                                    Both are the joker of their times.

                                                                    • Priyaram Shetty
                                                                      Priyaram Shetty  2 days back

                                                                      Both are perfect .but i loved heath ledger role

                                                                      • commentbosS 30
                                                                        commentbosS 30  2 days back

                                                                        Joaquin was good but we all have to agree Heath did it better 🙌

                                                                        • md akil
                                                                          md akil  2 days back

                                                                          Heath ledger always

                                                                          • Raymond
                                                                            Raymond  2 days back

                                                                            There is no comparing both. Coz both are great

                                                                            • Edgar
                                                                              Edgar  2 days back

                                                                              Phoenix. He made him as real and complex as could be and that's top criteria.

                                                                              • Coolnicknameguy
                                                                                Coolnicknameguy  3 hours back

                                                                                you musta seen some other joker movie. The one I saw was more like a dark forest gump than a joker. He played Arthur well, joker not so much, not even close to Heath's skill and quality

                                                                            • Jocsan Pabon
                                                                              Jocsan Pabon  2 days back

                                                                              HL Joker was and always will be the the best joker, unfortunately the man has passed away, we wont see that joker again, now in this new era, Phoenix came along to revive the Joker we miss and love, and he has prove to us that his Joker will honor the legacy of HL by giving his all on this role, when Phoenix let the joker came out, I was seeing HL joker coming out of him as well, in some takes and camera angles, I was seeing HL jokers personality coming out, and that was beautiful, Phoenix did his job, he made the fans love his Joker, he made that Joker laugh, hurt every time he laughed, so for me both HL and Phoenix were phenomenal as the joker, no doubt about why the deck of cards has only two joker cards, HL and Phoenix are the keepers of those cards.

                                                                              • el_guero09
                                                                                el_guero09  2 days back

                                                                                Both roles are distinct, can't really compare the two.

                                                                                • zippy blessed
                                                                                  zippy blessed  3 days back

                                                                                  PHONEIX HANDS DOWN

                                                                                  • codebebop
                                                                                    codebebop  3 days back

                                                                                    Phoenix Joker was the Origin, Ledger’s Joker was the accumulation of 20years of experience. One is the Alpha the other the Omega.

                                                                                    • Jonathan Bartlett
                                                                                      Jonathan Bartlett  3 days back

                                                                                      Phoenix's joker was spur of the moment,uncalculated,psychotic,a descent into madness.Ledgers joker was established,calculated,intelligent/sociopathic.

                                                                                      • Nikki Riv
                                                                                        Nikki Riv  3 days back

                                                                                        Same people who said that an animated joker was better than heath ledger. Your not right in the mind.
                                                                                        Heath Ledger > Joaquin Phoenix

                                                                                        • xXBlackTigerBjXx
                                                                                          xXBlackTigerBjXx  3 days back

                                                                                          They are both a 10/10 in their own unique way.

                                                                                          • NITESHADOWshouske
                                                                                            NITESHADOWshouske  3 days back

                                                                                            Heath’s joker was better. Don’t get me wrong, Phoenix still was a phenomenal Joker. But his version of the joker fell somewhat short of Ledger’s Joker performance.