Joker Director Finally Explains That Last Crucial Scene

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  • Published: 09 October 2019
  • Arthur Fleck's biggest joke just might be the one he pulled on you. Joker director Todd Phillips recently made a few very interesting comments to the Los Angeles Times about the final scene of the movie comments that imply a bizarre truth about the story being presented. In case that's not warning enough, be advised that major spoilers for Joker lie ahead.

    Joaquin Phoenix's Arthur is depicted early and often as having a tenuous grip on reality. The film eventually lets on that it's not always clear which events are fantasy and which are reality not to the audience, and presumably not to Arthur.

    At the end, Arthur is seen with his psychiatrist in Arkham State Hospital after he has apparently killed his mother, incited a riot, shot Murray Franklin on live television, and escaped from police custody with the help of his clown-masked followers. As the shrink attempts to question him, Arthur simply laughs, telling her that she wouldn't get the joke. According to Phillips, it's this particular laugh that might hold a clue about the true nature of the story that just unfolded. He explained,

    "That laugh in that scene is really the only time he laughs genuinely. There are different laughs in the movie. There is the laugh from Arthur's affliction and then there is his fake laugh when he's trying to be 'one of the people,' which is my favorite laugh. But at the end, when he's in the room at Arkham State Hospital, that's his only genuine laugh in the movie."

    Why is that, exactly? Well, perhaps because in the end, the joke is on us, the audience. Phillips has said that one of the main influences on his film was The Killing Joke, the acclaimed 1988 graphic novel in which the Joker says that if he must have a past, he, quote, "[prefers] it to be multiple choice." The director made a direct allusion to this dialogue in suggesting that as many fans have speculated Arthur Fleck might not necessarily be who we think he is. Phillips said,

    "There are lots of ways you could look at this movie. You could look at it and go, 'This is just one of his multiple-choice stories. None of it happened.' I don't want to say what it is. But a lot of people I've shown it to have said, 'Oh, I get it he's just made up a story. The whole movie is the joke. It's this thing this guy in Arkham Asylum concocted. He might not even be the Joker.'"

    Phillips went on to state outright that the man who will become Batman's nemesis may simply be in the background somewhere, watching all of these events play out. He said,

    "Maybe Joaquin's character inspired the Joker. You don't really know. His last line in the movie is, 'You wouldn't get it.' There's a lot going on in there that's interesting."

    Phoenix himself also explained that Joker can be seen not so much as a straightforward narrative, but as a series of suggestions. Keep watching the video to see that the Joker director finally explains that last crucial scene!

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Comments • 3 476

  • Looper
    Looper   5 days back

    How much of Joker do you think really happened in the movie? Which parts?

    • Alex Hernandez
      Alex Hernandez  2 hours back

      @superdave31 thank you!!!!

    • Alex Hernandez
      Alex Hernandez  2 hours back

      @Joseph Bernard nah

    • Todd Brown
      Todd Brown  3 hours back

      @Tad Macudzinski dude...how many times have you seen this movie? That's some pretty good analysis.

    • Exozik
      Exozik  5 hours back

      Nothing is real. We all imagined the film because it only really happened into our imagination.

    • Terific Games
      Terific Games  11 hours back

      @Thomas Engermann ur exactly right

  • 2wheelpiracy
    2wheelpiracy  12 minutes back

    In America, the liberal left is primed and ready to follow a madman who will orchestrate anarchy on a mass scale. This has been repeated in history many times over. The end result being total oligarchy.
    The last scene is metaphorical of this situation.

    • Marz_00 •
      Marz_00 •  20 minutes back

      They made it so they can go multiple ways with the next movie if they decide to make one ... definitely is a movie u have to watch more than once

      • Will Yfjyfgjhfhjhf
        Will Yfjyfgjhfhjhf  2 hours back

        I don’t give a fuck what anyone says, it was real.

        • Dennis Mozgovoy
          Dennis Mozgovoy  2 hours back

          I don’t know why I simply hate someone’s attempts to interpret movie in one way or another, explain it and then put it in a “box” with label on it, I prefer it to be multiple interpretations including my favorite.

          Thanks everyone who worked on that masterpiece. Thank you!

          • Tanner Budge
            Tanner Budge  2 hours back

            Why can’t this just be a true stand-alone movie? I hate all of these sequels and following the marvel bandwagon of a connected universe. I’m perfectly happy with Arthur’s story stopping and ending here. It would ruin it for me if they somehow tried to have him “influence” a new joker.

            • andrew webber
              andrew webber  2 hours back

              The joker may have been telling the story to the psychiatrist at the hospital and being an unreliable narrator it could be difficult to say what is true or not. However at the same time it doesn’t mean all the events of the film are untrue. It may explains the playing up for sympathy we get throughout much of it, the way it presents the idea that the harsh way society treated him that caused his reaction.That could be the joke that is on us. Although the psychopathic nature of his actions are always too much for him to really get our sympathy.

              • Henry Lozano
                Henry Lozano  2 hours back

                Joaquin IS the JOKER and don't tell me any differently Mr Phillips!

                • Haider Al-Araji
                  Haider Al-Araji  2 hours back

                  What if,
                  Athur Fleck is just a mentally ill guy who was inspired by a story from his cellmate, who’s name was the joker.
                  That’s why he imagined himself in the Murray show in the first place, and how he had a relationship.
                  If you look closely, how did he ended up touching bruse wayne in the Wayne palace? Where were the guards?
                  How come on earth a late show host mock someguy doing other stand up show, that’s a career suicide.
                  Too many questions regarding how easy things changed for him in so little time.

                  • jaysways
                    jaysways  3 hours back

                    IF Phillips says that Arthur is not the Joker and that his story (whether it’s real or not) had inspired another inmate at Arkham Asylum to become the ‘Joker’ which we might see in a future movie i will be so annoyed or if it’s a cliche ‘it was all just a dream’ movie.

                    i believe if Phillips wants to make a sequel that he would want to keep Phoenix as his joker, as they would have to cast and go through auditions to find another person to play the joker which would be such a waste of time. so hopefully Phoenix did or will become the joker and either the ending of the JOKER was set up for Arthur to now become who he wants to be (joker) OR the events of the movie did happen and Arthur is already the JOKER waiting for his escape from Arkham Asylum.

                    • Slim Retro
                      Slim Retro  3 hours back

                      It being made up just makes the movie completely pointless. It didn't happen, So we can't learn from it.
                      The point of the movie was to learn what happens when a mentally ill person is treated very poorly in a city filled with chaos and poverty.
                      Now thanks to the ending, we can't learn anything. Because it was all arthur's imagination.

                      • MCA der Negus
                        MCA der Negus  4 hours back

                        If he is the real joker, wouldn't he be very old when Bruce grows up?

                        • snowwhitewitch
                          snowwhitewitch  4 hours back

                          I really loved that movie.
                          I hope sone kind of Batman movie will follow.
                          The DCEU just sucks.

                          • Guillermo Olivares
                            Guillermo Olivares  4 hours back

                            I only hope that a real scene that happens is the one when the joker kills murray

                            • Young Pup X
                              Young Pup X  4 hours back

                              Todd Philips saying a face off not happening, isn’t any giveaway. He doesn’t want to make an action superhero movie. He wants to make a drama

                              • robman80808
                                robman80808  4 hours back

                                In the sequel he comes out of the shower, and Victoria Principal reveals it was all her dream.

                                • Kachi Fitness
                                  Kachi Fitness  4 hours back

                                  Well this idea ruins the movie for me. I don't like this version.

                                  • alexxx ratatatataaa
                                    alexxx ratatatataaa  5 hours back

                                    All the moment when she thinks he does the right things and people exclamed for that it s in his mind..so i think the relation ,scene at the stand up comedy and his escape was in his mind

                                    • Chelsy Fuller
                                      Chelsy Fuller  5 hours back

                                      Watching the Joker made me think about Dane Cooks 2008 stand up when he talked about “the weird guy at work” 😂. “thanks for the candy” 😂. If you haven’t seen it, it’s hilarious.

                                      • SuperFlyJ11
                                        SuperFlyJ11  5 hours back

                                        So heath ledger is still the REAL JOKER!

                                        • Jacob Dix
                                          Jacob Dix  5 hours back

                                          Isn’t he laughing at the thought of Bruce standing over his dead parents? Wasn’t that the entire point of that flashback during that scene?

                                          • Donald Blake
                                            Donald Blake  6 hours back

                                            He wouldn't give it away.. This early anyway

                                            • ExPat 78
                                              ExPat 78  6 hours back

                                              This movie has nothing to do with Batman. There is no Batman. There's no Gotham, except for in books. . Aurthur is an insane man in an institution, telling this cockamamie story to a therapist. He's just a nut that reads comic books.

                                              • Wey Cool
                                                Wey Cool  6 hours back

                                                I don't get the low Rotten Tomatoes critic's review (68%). I watched the first weekend it came out. It has been a long time since I heard cheers/clapping right when the movie finished. It was quite a moment. The best scene of the movie is the "bloody smile" he pulled after waking up from a car crash. He finally felt "belonged" to the group of clown followers. It was the moment we realize Joker is born. And the ending is so good...

                                                • nombla1111
                                                  nombla1111  7 hours back

                                                  No.

                                                  • Maria Bourquin
                                                    Maria Bourquin  7 hours back

                                                    I think Todd Phillips wrote and made a wonderful origin story to Cristopher Nolans Version of the Joker that saved Gotham City..........

                                                    • SlackMartin
                                                      SlackMartin  7 hours back

                                                      ”Finally” we’re like 1 week after the premiere lol.

                                                      • Michael S
                                                        Michael S  8 hours back

                                                        F**k the fake mainstream media. Joker was AMAZING!

                                                        • MIST
                                                          MIST  8 hours back

                                                          At the end of the movie Arthur looks at the camera and sings That's life. I think there is a turning point, the joke is in us and what is our perception of the facts, each subjectivity, that is, each of us can establish a different variant that justifies and adjusts to the events. Everyone who sees this movie ends up asking at some point: "What is real?"
                                                          You wouldn't understand, punchline, the curtain closes, the theater is empty.

                                                          • Sheila Cone
                                                            Sheila Cone  9 hours back

                                                            Yes, but, the movie is entirely from Arthur Fleck's perspective. So, to me, he is the Joker.

                                                            • JMC The Director
                                                              JMC The Director  9 hours back

                                                              No Todd Philips just told us we get to choose just like how the Joker has many origin stories we can decide how we want to Percieve this movie which is awesome! You can believe that it all happened or that it was all in his head we the audience get to choose how to view the movie which is amazing!

                                                              • wassup dude have a nice day

                                                                after watching the Joker, I feel like Batman is the villain.

                                                                • John Darcangelo
                                                                  John Darcangelo  10 hours back

                                                                  Everyone thought they were getting a bad ass Joker origin story. He goes from standing on the car in front of hundreds of people to Arkham with no explanation. And the final line:
                                                                  "That's life,
                                                                  and as funny as it may seem,
                                                                  some people get there kicks,
                                                                  stomping on a dream"

                                                                  • AMC guy
                                                                    AMC guy  11 hours back

                                                                    Nah i dont like that. I like to think that this is his origin story

                                                                    • Defias Pillager
                                                                      Defias Pillager  11 hours back

                                                                      What is there to explain?

                                                                      • Zom Bee Nature
                                                                        Zom Bee Nature  12 hours back

                                                                        I saw it last night without hearing ANYTHING about the movie beforehand, and toward the end I was thinking it was one of the best movies I have seen, not like anything else I ever saw. But at the end I got confused and didn't know _what_ to think! 😲

                                                                        • shinobu sensui
                                                                          shinobu sensui  12 hours back

                                                                          This is a single movie..i know,but i hope robert pattinson's batman has relation with this joker movie..joker is a symbol like murray franklin said. And somehow a mental ilness kid is obsessed with arthur so he can be the next joker and fight batman with an equal age.or maybe arthur adopt a kid and make him as the next riddler.

                                                                          • Alexandre de Souza
                                                                            Alexandre de Souza  13 hours back

                                                                            If most of the movie never really happened, nothing changes. It continues to be a fictional story.

                                                                            • Prima Mawitjere
                                                                              Prima Mawitjere  13 hours back

                                                                              Fuck it just give us the damn sequel or else I will fly to US and murder the director..

                                                                              • Sao Saosson
                                                                                Sao Saosson  14 hours back

                                                                                Joker is a real masterpiece and art

                                                                                • isha pandey
                                                                                  isha pandey  15 hours back

                                                                                  I don't think this theory is true...the bloody footprints at the end explain everything.

                                                                                  • Master Debater
                                                                                    Master Debater  15 hours back

                                                                                    Masterful performance by Joaquin Phoenix. I disagree that it's a movie about Arthur slowly going insane though. Arthur was always insane; he simply began embracing his identity.

                                                                                    • A M.
                                                                                      A M.  16 hours back

                                                                                      Why would the director make the effort to show that his 'relationship' was a delusion if the rest of his life wasn't real either? It doesn't make sense. I think he fantasized the relationship, the first talk show appearance, the 'success' of his stand-up routine and maybe the adulation ftom the crowd. The rest was real imo.

                                                                                      • DAHAKA, GUARDIAN OF THE TIMELINE

                                                                                        He laughed genuinely because all he wanted was some mental help, meds, and some recognition and the only way he truly got it was after flipping the city upside down, murdering three people, then admitting it on live television before shooting the host.

                                                                                        • Diego
                                                                                          Diego  17 hours back

                                                                                          Basically he's spitting in our faces that from a point, the movie was made up by Arthur's mind. He just laughs like that at Murray's show after killing him, at the police car, at the cops killing, and at the stair dancing.. basically after he becomes Joker, after killing Randall.. Could this mean that he was arrested after killing him? maybe he made up the "icon" or "narcissistic" part of the character as he talked with his therapyst.. God damn Todd Philips screwed me up

                                                                                          • Ethereal MusicTherapy
                                                                                            Ethereal MusicTherapy  17 hours back

                                                                                            This movie has been a mind fuck ever since the beginning. Love it! Keep it up. As for a sequel??? Hmmm....as long as it keeps us in suspense

                                                                                            • n o v s k i
                                                                                              n o v s k i  18 hours back

                                                                                              If its really multiple choice then I can't wait for more. Do IT NOW
                                                                                              Hopefully I get to watch.. before someday that I accidently drown myself.

                                                                                              I keep getting this thought that it's only great cuz of people's expectations like they are just throwing a bunch of things and showing it to people.

                                                                                              Just Like.

                                                                                              Letting people argue why Mona Lisa smile so great even tho in the other side of reality it's just a painting over one another and another making it great without *pure exact direction*.
                                                                                              Like a masterpiece of pure coincidence or is it not a pure coincidence.
                                                                                              Which is literally also one method and a definition of making *art*.

                                                                                              "That's life" is literally
                                                                                              The Killing Joke.

                                                                                              • Keizer
                                                                                                Keizer  19 hours back

                                                                                                This movie is a masterpiece and scares the all the snowflakes people !