Boeing's China Problem

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  • Published: 10 September 2019
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    References:
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    [4] skift.com/2019/01/08/boeing-edges-airbus-to-stay-worlds-biggest-commercial-aircraft-manufacturer/
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    [9] airbus.com/newsroom/news/en/2018/09/airbus--china-assembly-facility-marks-10-years-of-quality-manufa.html
    [10] wsj.com/articles/boeing-and-its-737-max-jets-have-a-china-problem-11554904340
    [11] nytimes.com/2019/03/13/business/china-boeing.html
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Comments • 2 718

  • souris verte
    souris verte  26 minutes back

    overpopulation is obviously a problem...but nobody is doing a thing about it

    • Johnny Ho
      Johnny Ho  1 hours back

      Besides computer parts like chips , its all over soon for US made planes like Boeing , the Chinese C919 and Russia China C929 are coming out soon. China Air Force is also buying more Russian renewed and improved SU57 after the initial deliveries were found to be fantastic by the Chines air force pilots.

      • Laura O'Chamney
        Laura O'Chamney  1 hours back

        Nah, Chinese made aircrafts are the worst. They're noisy, unreliable and unsafe. Similarly, other countries like Russia have built their own planes, but they have gone nowhere. Despite some accidents here and there, Boeing aircrafts are still the safest on the planet. According to the latest reports, the average person living in the United States has a 1 in 102 chance of dying in a car crash, compared to a 1 in 205,552 chance of dying as a passenger on an airplane.

        • Libero Arkangelos
          Libero Arkangelos  1 hours back

          Stop trading with china

          • Laura Wieng
            Laura Wieng  2 hours back

            Wait! Did this video just say $35 billion worth of [Boeing] aircraft sales to China? Clueless Wendover Productions is totally out of touch with reality. Since last year, China has paid the US over $65 billion for the tariffs on Chinese goods. Next year, the money is going to reach over $100 billion as a result of new tariffs. You do the math. Does the US need more aircraft sales to China? Probably NOT!

            • Laura Wieng
              Laura Wieng  2 hours back

              Wait! Did this video just say $35 billion worth of [Boeing] aircraft sales to China? Clueless Wendover Productions is totally out of touch with reality. Since last year, China has paid the US over $65 billion for the tariffs on Chinese goods. Next year, the money is going to reach over $100 billion as a result of new tariffs. You do the math. Does the US need more aircraft sales to China? Probably NOT!

              • BigphilyB
                BigphilyB  3 hours back

                Airbus über Allen ÜBER ALLEN IM DEM WELT

                • Papa Dollar
                  Papa Dollar  3 hours back

                  Boeing is in Seattle, lived there for a decade and they only are good for the Washington state population, not the rest of country. Sooo maybe it’s time we get another airplane company in American soil 👍

                  • Joe Burns
                    Joe Burns  3 hours back

                    Be kind of scary to fly on a made in China aircraft. No thanks.

                    • digigarb
                      digigarb  5 hours back

                      Even Chinese planes are knockoffs!!!

                      • AYL1688
                        AYL1688  7 hours back

                        737 Max? No, thanks !

                        • ian narita
                          ian narita  8 hours back

                          I am kind of curious why COMAC is having problems with the ARJ21. It is essentially a DC-9. And the DC-9 is a fairly simple aircraft as commercial aircraft go. Cables not hydraulics(or fly-by-wire), a relatively simple flap and slat wing.
                          The main change was a new engine. Douglas did not have a lot of problems back in the 1960's developing the plane.

                          • the1onlynoob
                            the1onlynoob  8 hours back

                            ?
                            Boeing made a faulty product, they need to compensate their customers regardless of who it is, government or private. How is it a symbolic move from the chinese government point of view when the losses of not running a X number of planes on Y number of flights over Z number of days literally calculable?

                            • worddunlap
                              worddunlap  8 hours back

                              They deserve each other. China probably copied them....

                              • Dysputant
                                Dysputant  9 hours back

                                Cooperate with company > Steal tech > Build your own copy > Profit

                                • Fırat Turk
                                  Fırat Turk  10 hours back

                                  Just a whif of bias, but a bias still: FAA not being the "worlds" sole aviation authority is not a "problem", but a god-sent gift to global aviation safety. Especially after the scandal that is FAA allowing Boeing certify it's own products under the pretense of defending Boeing in global competition. When you admit to taking your own side, you can't claim to represent everybody. That's just not going to happen.

                                  • zhli
                                    zhli  10 hours back

                                    That's a good example of trade war casualties: Boeing will permanently lose China market. Because, American companies like Boeing are seen as unreliable. When trade relationship goes sour, everything can be weaponized. When trade war further deepens, China will cutoff rare earth supplies to the US and that'd be devastating to tech industries and economy.

                                    • Tyler Aschen
                                      Tyler Aschen  10 hours back

                                      USA*, not America.

                                      • Matteo Mariano
                                        Matteo Mariano  11 hours back

                                        Amazing video as always. You say the C919 has the same engines as the neo and MAX (CFM Leap1A/ PW1000G on some neos) but you say the C919 will operate GE engines. Do you know which ones?

                                        • kapachangos
                                          kapachangos  11 hours back

                                          You forgot Embraer..

                                          • Wolfgang Gartner
                                            Wolfgang Gartner  12 hours back

                                            Honestly fuck Boeing.

                                            Surrender your safety testing to Europe,

                                            Then yes Boeing.

                                            When you’re serving a Global market you shouldn’t be the only one allowed to investigate yourself regarding safety implications.

                                            • ulfpe
                                              ulfpe  12 hours back

                                              China could swap Huawei against Boeing "safety concerns"

                                              • Jiefu Zhang
                                                Jiefu Zhang  12 hours back

                                                Boeing, can you just make a good plane? You will be out of the Chinese market, not because of China, it is because Boeing cannot make a good plane.

                                                • Bob Deckx
                                                  Bob Deckx  13 hours back

                                                  Boeing China Probrem

                                                  • Gary Davis
                                                    Gary Davis  13 hours back

                                                    Boeing Boeing, Gone just a matter of time

                                                    • Mark Snyder
                                                      Mark Snyder  14 hours back

                                                      So wrong. The Max will get recertified - and the Chinese will take delivery. The wait for A320’s is too long.; all airlines will get some compensation from Boeing. The Trade War is hammering the already poor economy much, much more than the US - please start getting your business news from a source that isn’t far Left and anti-Trump. And the 3rd issue - COMAC - is as much Airbus’ as Boeing. Yes, the Chinese will be buying their own planes. Some poorer Asian countries might to - but not that many.

                                                      Usually like your videos but this is very poor, with no basis in reality.

                                                      • THEEND123321
                                                        THEEND123321  14 hours back

                                                        so planes made in China suck and are bad! nothing new here folks......

                                                        • Mar Blox
                                                          Mar Blox  16 hours back

                                                          I hope COMAC succeeds. I love all the high quality low priced things I buy from Walmart.
                                                          For all you high priced labor workers - FU.!!!

                                                          • Mike B
                                                            Mike B  17 hours back

                                                            Hong Kong as a Communists China problem.

                                                            • Mark Fischer
                                                              Mark Fischer  17 hours back

                                                              Boeing will fix the problem that caused the two crashes. There's no doubt of that. The trade war with China would have caused China to cancel its future purchases anyway. The US can retaliate by not certifying the Chinese plane and not granting it landing rights in the US or its territories. It can also pressure its local allies like South Korea, Vietnam, Australia, and Japan to do the same.I don't think it will take too much persuasion. The EU will continue to rely on Airbus as its number one supplier. I doubt China will make many inroads in that market. Russia is also developing its own new passenger plane and so is not likely to allow China to compete effectively there either. The FAA has already given China a large number of defects in design and construction to fix. Perhaps the list will grow longer indefinitely. Boeing will rely to a large degree on the US domestic market and on its military products for its customers. Many outside the US not directly involved with the US China trade war will continue to purchase Boeing civilian aircraft for their fleets.

                                                              • Carlo B
                                                                Carlo B  17 hours back

                                                                the FAA allowed Boeing to self regulate on some things Wow what a monumental F...up! how typical of an America Inc. Corporation eyeing the potential dollars first before completing the job with aplomb .

                                                                • DavidisDawei
                                                                  DavidisDawei  17 hours back

                                                                  07:25
                                                                  http://daviddawei.com/chinese-made-passenger-jet-prepares-for-maiden-flight/

                                                                  • ottavva
                                                                    ottavva  18 hours back

                                                                    I hate AIRBUS and it just can't be helped

                                                                    • YG LEO
                                                                      YG LEO  18 hours back

                                                                      warning Taiwan is part of china

                                                                      • Eris Young
                                                                        Eris Young  18 hours back

                                                                        So this video is actually about boeing's 737 Max problem

                                                                        • Jim Dighton
                                                                          Jim Dighton  18 hours back

                                                                          The future is chinese, Chinese companies will make even the best American companies obsolete

                                                                          • EpicPlayer
                                                                            EpicPlayer  8 hours back

                                                                            Sinopec has entered the chatroom.

                                                                        • Keyser Soze
                                                                          Keyser Soze  18 hours back

                                                                          Im sure Boeings technology was stolen long ago...cmon if they steal fighter tech, why not commercial planes?

                                                                          • Timbuck Too
                                                                            Timbuck Too  19 hours back

                                                                            Haha. Boeing Sucks. There politically correct hiring practice has bit them in the ass. Serves them right for not hiring the most qualified(mostly white) engineers.
                                                                            The MAX is Dead. So is Boeing

                                                                            • josh otis
                                                                              josh otis  19 hours back

                                                                              They can buy all our Max 8 for what we payed for them

                                                                              • josh otis
                                                                                josh otis  19 hours back

                                                                                china is going too take out all seats but 1st class and make everyone stand so they can fly 2 times as many people per a plane.

                                                                                • ASGAR Q
                                                                                  ASGAR Q  19 hours back

                                                                                  Boycott China Products

                                                                                  • Amidat
                                                                                    Amidat  20 hours back

                                                                                    So you are saying Comac should have rushed through the ARJ21??? It's a commercial plane - not a bicycle! If they rushed it would end up crashing like the Boeing 737. Comac's record is safe... That's what they are concerned about.

                                                                                    • elysian fields
                                                                                      elysian fields  20 hours back

                                                                                      "Civil aviation" in China? BS! They are all military transports supporting the conscienceless CCP. Boeing is a mindless, commercial whore!

                                                                                      • Phil Zappa
                                                                                        Phil Zappa  20 hours back

                                                                                        Build your own.plane Han...see how hard it is....Remember...Usa did not steal your plans or designs...because...U GOT NONE

                                                                                        • Jiefu Zhang
                                                                                          Jiefu Zhang  12 hours back

                                                                                          That is exactly what they are doing. You will not see an Boeing 737 max again in China. They will have their own plane c919, c929 ec.

                                                                                      • Grishanya
                                                                                        Grishanya  20 hours back

                                                                                        You forgot to mention that C919 is build together with Russian company Irkut which is simultaneously developing MS-21 aircraft. Yes, GE engines are currently installed on C919 but its gonna be changed for PD-14 as soon as Russian institutions will finish the development of that. So it's even more dangerous since soon we will have MS-21 and C919 taking on Boeing 737 and Airbus A320neo together :)
                                                                                        Also there's a potential competition if Russia finally reallizes what to do with Il-96-400M because it needs new engines which Russia doesnt have but its a very good plane that can carry more than 450 passengers

                                                                                        • A. Al Khayyat
                                                                                          A. Al Khayyat  21 hours back

                                                                                          Polymatter?

                                                                                          • Ian Montgomery
                                                                                            Ian Montgomery  21 hours back

                                                                                            What about the C929 which is due in a couple of years.

                                                                                            • A Mohamed Nazel
                                                                                              A Mohamed Nazel  22 hours back

                                                                                              nobody trust 737max anymore or Boeing for that matter..they don't keep their word and cut corners on safety and make huge profits by compromising safety