Snubbing James Harden for 2018-19 NBA MVP 'would be a joke' - Mike Greenberg | Get Up!

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  • Arsalan Zaheer
    Arsalan Zaheer  2 months back

    Well gainiss just won lmao

    • Soar Kunta
      Soar Kunta  2 months back

      I really want Giannis to win, but I wouldn't be mad if James got it.

      • RIFICA777
        RIFICA777  3 months back

        Guess its gonna be a joke because I don't think they gave it to him.

        • cha sam
          cha sam  4 months back

          So this guy says Giannis MVP because Bucks got better record and better team in the East. Dude youre a joke, keep dreaming with analytics

          • Frank Champion
            Frank Champion  4 months back

            Harden shooting 37% in the playoffs 😂😂 better referees who don’t fall for his flopping is the reason his numbers always fall in the playoffs. #NoMVP

            • Frank Champion
              Frank Champion  4 months back

              Lmao he’s making the argument that harden is playing good defense by bringing up steals😂😂😂. Giannis is the best defender in the entire nba not named Rudy Gobert. All I hear in favor for harden is “points”

              • Frank Champion
                Frank Champion  4 months back

                What’s crazy about it ? Advanced stats say Giannis had a better season and his team finished with a better record. Problem is Greeny is a casual fan who still only looks at points per game lmao

                • ᄆ_ᄋ벼락치기
                  ᄆ_ᄋ벼락치기  4 months back

                  I can smell bandwagons with no knowledge

                  • Kenny Wathen
                    Kenny Wathen  4 months back

                    Rockets MIGHT be an 8 seed without Harden. MVP hands down

                    • Alex
                      Alex  4 months back

                      No you are wrong, they would be 2nd to last worst team like they were at the beginning of the season and miss the playoffs by a long shot

                  • Hucky
                    Hucky  4 months back

                    Harden for the MVP!

                    • wayne mecus
                      wayne mecus  4 months back

                      Ever hear of playing defense ???

                      • Pen Wednesday
                        Pen Wednesday  4 months back

                        Bruh no. Giannis doesn’t have the best defensive tits whatsoever the nba website clearly says differently why doesnthis white dude make shit up

                        • qu chang
                          qu chang  4 months back

                          you are a joke

                          • Daniel Barwatt
                            Daniel Barwatt  4 months back

                            The only reason ppl are choosing Harden over Giannis is the 36ppg..theyre not taking everything else into consideration..Giannis is better at everything else..Harden is just an overrated stat stuffer who uses his teammates to fill the stat sheet..Giannis does everything for his team and maxmizes their talents..also..Giannis has been consistent from the get go..Harden didnt get going until like a month into the season..to me Giannis is the MVP

                            • Curry IsGOAT
                              Curry IsGOAT  4 months back

                              In my opinion there should be an MVP for each conference

                              • Mark Kevin Docto
                                Mark Kevin Docto  4 months back

                                Hahaha joking white... James Harden.... Two thumbs up for giannias

                                • CarWeekly ZL1
                                  CarWeekly ZL1  4 months back

                                  False Harden doesn’t play defense like Giannis does everyone knows that Giannis plays both sides of the court where as harden doesn’t

                                  • Ralph Italian
                                    Ralph Italian  4 months back

                                    Giannis is mvp... harden could have averaged 50pts a game.
                                    For me, no question about it.
                                    These guys shouldn’t even get paid to talk sports.
                                    It’s a shame they do

                                    • Brandon Banks
                                      Brandon Banks  4 months back

                                      Giannis is the MVP , most consistent player of the year

                                      • Chordstruck Pony
                                        Chordstruck Pony  4 months back

                                        Yeah but here's the thing, the voters were looking at that OKC game they had, they led for three quarters and had a 16-point cushion. Harden scored I think it was 34 throughout the course of three quarters, but when the money was on the table and cheeks got tight, Harden didn't hit anything but freethrows.


                                        There are always performances towards the end of the year that ultimately decide the award for good. That's how Curry won it over Harden in 15, Westbrook won it over him in 17, and Giannis may win it over him this year because of the two-way consistency. And unfortunately for Harden, he didn't have the standout performances towards the end to outpace the Giannis narrative.

                                        • mm mm
                                          mm mm  4 months back

                                          lol if harden don't win finals none of this matters

                                          • Joseph Delledonne
                                            Joseph Delledonne  4 months back

                                            Damn Straight! This guy is MVP, what he is doing is historic, I get Giannis is putting up numbers and the team is winning, but Harden had to carry this team from the gutter with his sidekicks hurt. Plus, he's averaging 36 ppg, and playing defense, and getting over 7 apg, and a great rebounder at over 6 per game. Come on, this guy is MVP easy, and yes, he's better than Giannis! He's more proven!! Give this guy MVP, Westbrook won it when the team was in 8th place. Harden should have gotten it the year Westbrook won it too, his team had a better record and he only averaged 2 less apg. Come on, quit robbing this guy!!

                                            • Derick Chen
                                              Derick Chen  4 months back

                                              I think giannis deserves it more, I love harden though

                                              • Sean O'Grady
                                                Sean O'Grady  5 months back

                                                I would take James harden over trash ass kobe any day of the week. Harden is the best scorer we have ever seen besides Jordan!

                                                • Peyton Clay
                                                  Peyton Clay  5 months back

                                                  This will answer your question

                                                  Rockets without Harden vs Bucks without Greek Freak

                                                  Who will win??

                                                • Ny Brown
                                                  Ny Brown  5 months back

                                                  1:00 “ harden has more games scoring 50, than he does under 25” wtf 😮😮😮

                                                  • Rossy's
                                                    Rossy's  5 months back

                                                    fucking jew doesn't know basketball

                                                    • Nathan %%
                                                      Nathan %%  5 months back

                                                      All they talk about in scoring, bruh basketball happens on both ends defense is as important as offense. People seem to forget that

                                                      • Nathan %%
                                                        Nathan %%  4 months back

                                                        @Troubled Dog giannis is top 20 in league in every stat. He plays both ends better than everyone before him

                                                      • Troubled Dog
                                                        Troubled Dog  4 months back

                                                        And Harden averages 6,6 rebounds while Giannis averages 12 on less games. Harden also averages 2 steals and 0.5 blocks per game (mind you he's a 6'5 shooting guard). Giannis averages 1 steal and 1.5 blocks as a 6'11 Small forward. Giannis is having an amazing season this year, but the MVP is absolutely James Harden. He carried a crippled rockets from the bottom of the West to the 3rd/4th seed (depending on the Blazer's next game). Giannis played as the future goat on a strong healthy team throughout the entire season (of course Malcom Brogdon had an injured period)

                                                    • Dylan Payne
                                                      Dylan Payne  5 months back

                                                      Bruh Harden truly is the most VALUABLE player. What's more impressive, being 7ft tall and dunking all day for your points or a 6'5 guard that has dirty handles, huge shooting range, and craftiness in the paint? Harden = VALUE

                                                      • Giannis Akenenonmhapo
                                                        Giannis Akenenonmhapo  5 months back

                                                        Giannis has more win shares

                                                        • Arturo Llanderal
                                                          Arturo Llanderal  5 months back

                                                          Harden mvp

                                                          • No B
                                                            No B  5 months back

                                                            The bucks rank dead last in strength of schedule. The bucks literally have the 26th easiest schedule in the history of the nba. If any of the top 3 teams in the West had the bucks schedule, then they’d have 60+ wins also easy

                                                            • Alex Waweru
                                                              Alex Waweru  5 months back

                                                              Why not have 2 MVP winners?🤷🏿‍♂️

                                                            • LikeN ReactGang
                                                              LikeN ReactGang  5 months back

                                                              It’s not a snub. GIANNIS IS MVP

                                                              • אורי צדוק
                                                                אורי צדוק  5 months back

                                                                If harden doesn't win, I will stop watching nba.

                                                                • pankouk1
                                                                  pankouk1  5 months back

                                                                  GREAT. NBA doesn't need casuals like you.

                                                              • Nadav Oneplus
                                                                Nadav Oneplus  5 months back

                                                                Giannis is the MVP. 50 points performances like Booker doesnt make you better than a player like Giannis who gives his team a huge value, leading them to the 1st seed in east and the best record in the NBA.

                                                                • YeetGod McNeckAss
                                                                  YeetGod McNeckAss  5 months back

                                                                  Booker isnt Harden dumbass. Bookers 50 point games dont result in wins, Hardens do. They are 6-3 when Harden scores 50+ (67% Winning Percentage), 15-4 When Harden scores 40-49 (78% Winning Percentage), 17-10 When Harden scores 39-30 (62% Winning Percentage), 14-11 When Harden scores less than 30 (56% Winning Percentage).


                                                                  The Rockets need Hardens scoring.

                                                              • Su Cui
                                                                Su Cui  5 months back

                                                                I will go with James without any questions as what he did for his team

                                                              • Joe Brooks
                                                                Joe Brooks  5 months back

                                                                Yeh but no-one likes harden.

                                                                • Qwerty Werty
                                                                  Qwerty Werty  5 months back

                                                                  Youre a joke.

                                                                  • jimmy maka
                                                                    jimmy maka  5 months back

                                                                    stop trying.. YOU GUYS ARE THE JOKE HERE!!

                                                                    • BigBro Dewaun
                                                                      BigBro Dewaun  5 months back

                                                                      I agree

                                                                      • Peter Babcock
                                                                        Peter Babcock  5 months back

                                                                        Giannis easily should win because he averages 27 while doing everyone thing else on the court harden only scores,and it called MVP for a reason most valuable to their team harden is not nearly as valuable as giannis

                                                                        • YeetGod McNeckAss
                                                                          YeetGod McNeckAss  5 months back

                                                                          Harden only scores yet averages more Assists and Steals than Giannis?

                                                                      • Lewis Fadipe
                                                                        Lewis Fadipe  5 months back

                                                                        Snubbing Giannis would be a CRIME

                                                                        • Cemil Şişman
                                                                          Cemil Şişman  5 months back

                                                                          Harden averages 36pts on 24 shots while Giannis averages 28pts on 17.5 shots. Context matters. Plus all of these people were voting for Harden last year despite LeBron having better stats because Houston had the better record. Now they think harden is the MVP just because he averages 8 more points while taking 6.5 more shots.
                                                                          Giannis is the MVP.

                                                                          • YeetGod McNeckAss
                                                                            YeetGod McNeckAss  5 months back

                                                                            @pankouk1 What that is called is moving the goalposts. You were proven wrong on some bullshit assumption, now you're moving on to another argument.


                                                                            But since you wanted me to, I did.
                                                                            37.4PPG with Hardens FGA (24.6) and FTA (11)... Wow, you would think with how much better and more "Efficient" Giannis is than Harden, He would be averaging more than just 1 point more than Harden..


                                                                            Oh but wait, that would mean he also averages more than Jordan and Kobes highest scoring seasons. And they BOTH took more shots than Harden, played 40+ minutes, and took 10+ free throws to score 35+ PPG. Wilt also never took less than 28 shots, played less than 45 Minutes, and took less than 12 FTs to score 35PPG. I never see people complaining about the amount of shots they took or minutes they played to score that much. It's only criticized when Harden does it, on less shots and minutes mind you. That must mean Giannis is better than Jordan and Kobe... Or maybe it's just that Giannis does NOTHING but score in the paint which is why his FG% is so high, so when you compare their shots taken with no context, it isn't very accurate.

                                                                          • pankouk1
                                                                            pankouk1  5 months back

                                                                            @YeetGod McNeckAss Great. Now increase his shots attempts per game to 24.5 (Harden's fga) and do the math again.

                                                                          • YeetGod McNeckAss
                                                                            YeetGod McNeckAss  5 months back

                                                                            ​@pankouk1 I just did the math. Harden plays 4 more minutes a game. If you scaled up Giannis' shot attempts (17.4 to 19.5) , How many shots he takes of each type per game (14.6 2s to 16.4) (2.8 3s to 3.1) (9.5FTs to 10.7) , and his shooting percentages from each area (63.9% from 2) (25.3% from 3) (73% from FT) he would score approximately 31.1PPG.


                                                                            I could be wrong somewhere in the math, but im pretty sure im not. And that means your fantasy world of "Imagining if Giannis played as much as Harden" would result in Giannis still scoring significantly less than Harden.

                                                                          • pankouk1
                                                                            pankouk1  5 months back

                                                                            @No B And what's the Bucks' record against playoff teams? Not their problem that they play against some weak teams. That's why they have one of the highest point differential ever. They're blowing their opponents up and Giannis sits most of the 4th period. Can you imagine how much he would average if he played as much as Harden?

                                                                          • No B
                                                                            No B  5 months back

                                                                            Cemil Şişman the bucks rank dead last in strength of schedule. The bucks literally have the 26th easiest schedule in the history of the nba. If any of the top 3 teams in the West had the bucks schedule, then they’d have 60+ wins also easy

                                                                        • Iain Warren
                                                                          Iain Warren  5 months back

                                                                          No, it'll be a joke if an unselfish, hard working, two way player with unbelievable stats on the BEST team, doesn't get the award, FYI, steals don't mean stellar defence even though Harden's been better Giannis is still better than him, these recent discussions about MVP and ROTY have just exposed American media's ongoing ignorance towards non-American athletes

                                                                          • Thomas Walieser
                                                                            Thomas Walieser  5 months back

                                                                            Just based on stats (including efficiency) and team success Giannis should win there are calculators for this

                                                                            Supporting cast isn't included

                                                                            • Thomas Walieser
                                                                              Thomas Walieser  5 months back

                                                                              @YeetGod McNeckAss I know they do but the calculators are only locking at standings and stats

                                                                              In other words it should be a bit closer than the calculators are making it out to be

                                                                              Giannis chance to win MVP according to those calculators are twice as big as Harden's therefore it seems like Giannis is still the favorite even with supporting cast

                                                                              You can look the calculator up:
                                                                              https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/mvp.html

                                                                            • YeetGod McNeckAss
                                                                              YeetGod McNeckAss  5 months back

                                                                              Why is supporting cast not included? Because you know the argument benefits Harden? Harden had to CARRY the Rockets back into the playoffs from the 14th to 4th seed while CP3, Gordon, and Capela had injuries.. Yet somehow that shouldn't be included.


                                                                              "Including Efficiency". You mean how in True Shooting % Giannis is at 64% and Harden is at 61%?

                                                                          • Rah-Mel Rosado
                                                                            Rah-Mel Rosado  5 months back

                                                                            James Harden brings the ball up the court and goes straight to Isolation... Giannas can do the same thing if he wanted to... he just can’t make a step back 3 like Harden... The Greek Freak gets my vote

                                                                            • Nick Van Elzen
                                                                              Nick Van Elzen  5 months back

                                                                              If giannis stat padded he'd avg 40-20-10-5-5