Brady is greatest team athlete of all-time, Freddie Kitchens is in over his head | NFL | THE HERD


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  • The Herd with Colin Cowherd

    Is Tom Brady the greatest team athlete of all-time?

    • Martin S.
      Martin S.  3 days back

      Yes and no; it's not 'accurate' to say TB12 is the best SPORTS ATHLETE of all-time. First of all, it's not fair to TB12, but it's also not fair to say... hockey players, or soccer players. Keep in mind, if you take a sports athlete like Christiano Ronaldo (CR7) how many times has he won Champions League? He has at least 28 trophies!

      Don't get me wrong, I love Patriots and TB12, but to say he's the greatest ATHLETE of all-time, that is stretching it way out.

      TB12 is without any doubt the most accomplished NFL player/QB of all-time. Will he ever be surpassed? Maybe. When Michael Shumacher, former Formula 1 driver, won his 7th championship title, there were those who said it would never be surpassed. Well, Lewis Hamilton sure is in with a good chance of doing it.

    • HT
      HT  2 weeks back


    • pdg90
      pdg90  2 weeks back

      Not at all. It’s too much controversy over his wins. (tuck rule, spygate, deflategate, ref favoritism etc.)

    • Xander Sanders
      Xander Sanders  4 weeks back

      Absolutely not. Team success and longevity don’t necessarily make you the best

  • Rick McKenzie
    Rick McKenzie  12 hours back

    Colin Herd is the greatest man in sports broadcasting

    • hollister lowe
      hollister lowe  19 hours back

      Brady has done more in his sport than anyone else has in the NFL. Jordan has not! The 3/3 is amazing but there is still a Russell, Jabbar and Magic that is in the debate. Jordan hasn’t made the separation in his sport that Brady has made in his and he’s still playing! Ridiculous! Oh and Belichick had something to do with it as well!

      • Politics scitilop
        Politics scitilop  1 days back

        I actually never thought of that

        Cut Brady career in half and it can still be argued he is the Greatest QB ever, or atleast in top 3

        That's 1 for the haters

        They will have nightmares over that one😂😂😂

        • Lissy
          Lissy  3 days back

          Brady <3 G.O.A.T i can say only one thing ..from europe proud that u have someone like this in your country !!! he is the best

          • Francisco Rodriguez
            Francisco Rodriguez  6 days back

            Everyone craps on ELI... everyone.. and at the end he is 2-0 against Tom in the super bowl... done enough said... joe actually sat out in the 4th quarter with plenty of time left and he still threw for 5 TDS... give me a break joe beat Marino and elway... come on... both at their best... get out of here... joe is the best Brady ... not there...

            • Jason Bowser
              Jason Bowser  6 days back

              Just think about what Montana would have done with the rules today and QBs not even being able to be touched. Good Lord. Brady is the greatest of this generation, not all time. He would get absolutely destroyed in the 70’s and 80’s. He couldn’t even play. But those QBs would have begged to play in these rules. That’s a huge difference that Herd always conveniently ignores.

              • Todd Hall
                Todd Hall  1 weeks back

                I really like and respect Brady and agree on much of what Colin says except Belichick is as much or more responsible for those rings than Brady. The offense only had 13 points in the last super bowl but the end up winning because of Belichick and his assistants. It's a marriage made in heaven though. Brady has greatly aided Belichick to be the coach he is. Even with his accomplishments he remains coachable and a great teammate. He's taken less money to help the team with other contracts. He lets Belichick criticize him in front of the team and takes it constructively. He sets the tone for the team. His love for the game, attitude and work ethic let him overcome being a below average athlete. His arm is definitely way above average though.

                • Rick James
                  Rick James  1 weeks back

                  Its time like this when you question how these so called analysts get paid to speak on sports. You're wrong Cowherd and this is why...Basketball players play Offense and Defense, which puts them in a totally different level of comparison. You can make that argument for football only. As for Basketball and Hockey, no he's not. It's ludicrous to have to point this out to an analyst.

                  • Rick James
                    Rick James  5 days back

                    @Regular Dad Here That's true and we can't forget there's one more sport, RUGBY, it doesn't get enough credit for the physicality required. Practically football with no pads. That's a mans game...

                  • Regular Dad Here
                    Regular Dad Here  5 days back

                    Rick James yeah don’t forget soccer. I think they may be best athletes in the world arguably. Basketball and hockey definitely physical demanding sports having to play both offense and defense.

                • HereIsWisdom 1318
                  HereIsWisdom 1318  2 weeks back

                  If someone stopped watching football in 2005, then turned on the tv this passed Sunday, “they’d have to be shocked to see Brady still playing.”

                  • AWelsh Celt
                    AWelsh Celt  2 weeks back

                    C'mon Colin, you know Brady isn't the greatest athlete of all time. It's silly. You're silly. The whole premise is silly. Grow up, ffs.

                    • mela bbn
                      mela bbn  3 weeks back

                      1 Wayne Gretzky
                      2 Messi
                      3 Jordan

                    • Stephen Udycz
                      Stephen Udycz  3 weeks back

                      If you use Bill Russell as a comparison against Jordan, you should include Otto Graham in the conversation.

                      • James W
                        James W  3 weeks back

                        Brady never won without Bill....Brady has that just like Gretzky and Jordan

                        • sureiguess1
                          sureiguess1  3 weeks back

                          Brady prlly watches this and smirks to himself

                          • Nicholas Mnich
                            Nicholas Mnich  4 weeks back

                            Brady has played in the weakest division in the last 10 years. None of those teams can touch Brady in his last 3 super bowls.

                            • Andrew Pereira
                              Andrew Pereira  4 weeks back

                              ORR was way better then Wayne G~ he could play defense and offense.

                              • Erik Gonzalez
                                Erik Gonzalez  4 weeks back

                                Let's be REAL!!!!! Tom Brady is the GREATEST OF ALL TIME!!!!! PERIOD!!!!! I'm a Browns fan but I give RESPECT where it's due!!!!!! He is the 🐐 #TomBradyTheGOAT

                                • C Rowley
                                  C Rowley  4 weeks back

                                  This is the dumbest thing ever. No one ever said “X player is better than Jordan” during his career. Media and fans and said Peyton, Rodgers, Brees are possibly better. Brady as an athlete isn’t doing anything we haven’t seen before. Jordan revolutionized basketball as we know it. Shut the F up clown

                                  • Xander Sanders
                                    Xander Sanders  4 weeks back

                                    The most PPG Tom Brady's defense has ever allowed in a season is 21.6
                                    Marino's defenses allowed more than that 5 times
                                    Rodgers' defenses allowed more than that 6 times
                                    Peyton's defense allowed more than that 7 times
                                    Brees' defenses allowed more than that 9 times
                                    Quit trying to craft a “Brady didn’t have much help” argument. Not to mention arguably the most talented WR and TE of all time

                                    • Pedro Martinez
                                      Pedro Martinez  1 weeks back

                                      @Michael Robert Update: The difference between #10 and #17 is now less than 3 ppg.

                                    • Pedro Martinez
                                      Pedro Martinez  2 weeks back

                                      @Michael Robert Four games is hardly an adequate sample size. Show me a 16 game season and the numbers are usually quite close. Plus you need to examine quality of opponents, offenses played, turnovers created, the timing of scores, and whether a defense improves during the season and how it plays in the postseason.
                                      e.g. the 2011 Packers defense was ranked 19th in points allowed. You might assume that was a bad defense. However, they led the NFL in turnovers created as well as leading the NFC in field position given to their offense. They also gave up 41 points in the last game of the season when they rested many of their starters; which skewed their ppg allowed.
                                      So if you omit the final game / outlier, the 2011 Packers D gave up 20.26 points per game. The two teams in the Super Bowl that year gave up 21.4 (New England) and 25.0 (New York Giants) points per game.
                                      The defense excuse is a red herring in my opinion; especially when phrased in terms of "Top 10." It is misleading and deceptive.

                                    • Michael Robert
                                      Michael Robert  2 weeks back

                                      @Pedro Martinez this season the #10 defense (Houston) has allowed 19.5 PPG while the number 17 defense (Denver) is averaging 23.4 PPG. That's an entire nother possession that the qb needs to take the lead

                                    • Pedro Martinez
                                      Pedro Martinez  2 weeks back

                                      @Michael Robert Top 10 doesn't mean anything without context.
                                      Is the #10 defense in points scored that much better than the #17 defense?
                                      It is less than a point per game in many seasons. If that is your excuse why your QB isn't winning then that is just sour grapes.

                                  • mixsignal91
                                    mixsignal91  4 weeks back

                                    Why is it some media people have to try and compare goats from seperate sports? It's a completely different situation. Argue goats within the sport.

                                    • Edgar Vargas Villarreal

                                      Brady never had a 3-peat. Enough said. MJ is the GOAT

                                      • tony sobon
                                        tony sobon  4 weeks back

                                        I do forget about Pippen in that he has a strong case for top 50 players of all-time and maybe at like 30 not 49-50 again maybe. The Jazz in the 90's are the only other team that maybe has 2 players over the top 50 of All-Time. There were duos like Payton and Kemp that are HoF players but both in top 50 no way. then you look at the duo of Pippen and Jordan and they were both elite if not top 10 defenders during there era and worked off each other prefect where there small weak spot in there game the other was able to cover the slight weakness in each others games. I mean take just those 2 and build a team around them and they could plays and win any era and i don't want hear about the 3 ball. Saying MJ wouldn't be at least a +30% 3 shooter and take 5-6 a game and i think Pippen would have been able to about the same.

                                        • Jude Jack
                                          Jude Jack  4 weeks back

                                          If you swap Peyton Manning and Tom Brady Who would have more rings

                                        • Maphack
                                          Maphack  4 weeks back

                                          imo, federer is the goat athlete

                                          • Cloud GAMING
                                            Cloud GAMING  4 weeks back

                                            Half of Brady's career is not even close to Peyton Manning..

                                            • Cloud GAMING
                                              Cloud GAMING  2 weeks back

                                              @Pedro Martinez half of Brady's playoff stats would be similar to Mannings.. Actually less playoff wins just 1 more SB win.. Then Manning would have 5MVP, way more allpro, yards, wins, comebacks, tds, division titles, etc.. Half of Brady is not close to Peyton's career.. I will admit he is the greatest of all time but he has not had double the career of Manning, Elway, or Montana

                                            • Pedro Martinez
                                              Pedro Martinez  2 weeks back

                                              Brady's playoff stats dwarf Manning's.

                                          • Rickard Kosuta
                                            Rickard Kosuta  4 weeks back

                                            Tbh he had Gronkowski who when healthy was a beast

                                            • Robert Rizzo
                                              Robert Rizzo  4 weeks back

                                              brady is the best u cant even argue

                                              • Konsu
                                                Konsu  4 weeks back

                                                LIONEL MESSI IS THE BEST

                                                • matuopm
                                                  matuopm  4 weeks back

                                                  i think colin is right about jordan in this case but gretzkys records are absolutely unreal

                                                  • Bob Billings
                                                    Bob Billings  4 weeks back

                                                    Colin, Im going to send you a comfy set of cushioned knee pads, since you were on yours just now so long, and a towel to wipe your face, and some mouth wash to gargle....

                                                    • jacob strong
                                                      jacob strong  4 weeks back

                                                      Brady is the Pippin to Belechek lul

                                                      • Quintessence Productions, LLC

                                                        A great analysis backed by FACTS! Agree that Kitchens is trying to everything to everybody. He is going to kearn real fast: NFL: Not For Long. He will be fired by Haslam and won't know what hit him...The Brady analysis: I have said this for as long as I can remember: you will NEVER ever ever ever get a number 199 sixth round STEAL like Belichick did with Tom Brady. Watch that video of that draft day. Belichick kept asking the GM and scouts/assistants, "No one's picked up that skinny kid from Michigan? He's still on the Boards?". Belichick had to justify carrying A FOURTH QB and put Brady on the Taxi squad. But look at that stretch decision now. He who laughs last laughs best, and Belichick already got his last laugh. Belichick is now torturing the NFL.

                                                        • Redrider
                                                          Redrider  4 weeks back

                                                          Vinatieri got him two, Malcom butler won him one, so Brady has won 3 super bowls. But what do I know lol

                                                        • Steinzeitmonteur
                                                          Steinzeitmonteur  4 weeks back

                                                          He is a top QB... But Athlete? Nah...

                                                          • Aadil Khan
                                                            Aadil Khan  4 weeks back

                                                            Brady plays one side of the field Jordan was the best at both sides of the game on his team every time

                                                            • Jim Watson
                                                              Jim Watson  4 weeks back

                                                              Hey, Huge Brady fan here but not close to being the Greatest Athlete of all time. I mean at my 57 years I have a better 40 time than Brady now. Ton's of Absolute Respect for Brady but the Best Pure Athlete in my life was Bo Jackson!

                                                              • John Dailey
                                                                John Dailey  4 weeks back

                                                                Brady doesn't have to play defense like MJ and Gretzky

                                                                • Bobby Currie
                                                                  Bobby Currie  3 weeks back

                                                                  I didn't realize Gretzsky ever played defense. Lol

                                                              • Al's World
                                                                Al's World  4 weeks back

                                                                Uhhhhhhhh Brady has BILL BELICHEK

                                                                • michael Castle
                                                                  michael Castle  4 weeks back

                                                                  Brady knows what's it's like to be an Underdog........

                                                                  • ryan cano-williams
                                                                    ryan cano-williams  4 weeks back

                                                                    Brady has always had a great defense and Belicheck Colin relax

                                                                    • Sclass Entertainment
                                                                      Sclass Entertainment  4 weeks back

                                                                      He has not lapped Jordan .... Let's not get ahead of ourselves

                                                                      • darthsadic
                                                                        darthsadic  4 weeks back

                                                                        What a retarted video, I feel dumber by listening to this.

                                                                        • Ryan Krueger
                                                                          Ryan Krueger  4 weeks back

                                                                          please stop talking about the browns

                                                                          • dave m
                                                                            dave m  4 weeks back

                                                                            Joe has 3 MVPS. NOT 4

                                                                            • J Cowan
                                                                              J Cowan  4 weeks back

                                                                              Mario Lemieux

                                                                              • J Cowan
                                                                                J Cowan  4 weeks back

                                                                                Mario Lemieux

                                                                                • Jamal Hunt
                                                                                  Jamal Hunt  4 weeks back

                                                                                  The most laughable thing is Colin actually comparing these guys. And it's funny that he doesn't wanna include Belichick in Tom's run